Post-match: USA vs Jamaica CONCACAF Nations League (leg 1)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Nov 14, 2024 at 9:58 PM.

  1. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My counter argument is if this was true they wouldn't have had the sprinklers on before the game. The game in St Louis should show whether this is true but even though we needed a last minute wonder goal against them at Jerry World we controlled that game and missed a ton of chances while they got an extremely lucky goal early and hung on (kind of the opposite of this game). I was worried about their speed but it didn't really manifest. We also have a lot of very fast players.
     
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  2. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    You are exactly correct! It is called Bermuda grass. We have that variety in Florida.
     
  3. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Um, Wynalda was a different cat but having Harkes nobbling his wife for the whole team to see didnt help his mental health.
     
  4. cyberthoth

    cyberthoth Member+

    Nashville SC
    Aug 7, 2000
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just saying Jozy never made that step to the next tier that McBride did to actually be a reliable Big-4 starter. I always thought he could've made that leap eventually if he hadn't come back to MLS but we can't change history. Balogun and Pepi have both shown they can be excellent strikers in the top leagues below the Big 4. So even if you rate Jozy higher (I'm not disputing valid arguments can be made there), the three have essentially achieved the same level and comparing them is a matter of personal preference.

    Wynalda is a hard one to gauge, and I'm a big enough fan I literally have a 94 jersey with his name on it. He hit 9 goals in the Bundesliga in 92 which makes me want to rank him as a Big-4 level striker but then the rest of his career was essentially good 2nd division player like Josh Sargent, who we forget also had 5 goals in the Bundesliga at a much younger age. Was Wynalda's one year a fluke? Honestly I may be underrating both Sargent and Wynalda and both may have shown enough to be considered good strikers in the leagues below the Big 4 but I feel with Josh we really need to see more to say that and we didn't have the chance to see more with Wynalda because of injuries and MLS.
     
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  5. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Undoubtedly true, but... he was always kinda like that.

    The thing with him and the rest of the national team starters at that point is that every one of them interrupted their careers (some had better, some had worse) to build MLS, and while in most cases that definitely affected their club career trajectories for the worse, I will never penalize them for that. We NEEDED a viable domestic league, and the fact that we have one is the (only) reason why we perennially have a more talented program now than we did then. They deserve credit for helping get that project off the ground.
     
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  6. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i like thinking about mathis and mckennie in the same timeline. what an incredibly fun disaster that would almost certainly be.
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had a work permit. He was released because Ron Atkinson didn't think he was good enough for (a much weaker) Premier League.
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Inter Miami, FC Dallas and Nashville use it edited: as do LAFC and Houston Dynamo.
     
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  9. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I think a couple of posters remarked the field may have held back Jamaica more than the US.
    The field was in poor condition and made for a poor match, and it happens that way a lot, that’s all.
     
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  10. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a lot of varieties of Bermuda.
     
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  11. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jul 17, 2024
    It is clearly possible for there to be good/great fields in tropical climates. Just look at the newer fields in Costa Rica and The Dominican Republic (just to mention a couple of the better field sets i have seen in southern climates.)
    It is not any fact of climate that makes fields in some countries very bad (BTW: At the other extreme look at how many really bad fields exist in Canada but we know cold climates can have great fields as well) it is a choice where teams/countries/federations choose to spend money and most are currently not choosing to put money into fields at this time.
    However I think that the fields hurt both the teams playing and the image of the countries involved. It is unfortunate that many countries put so little money toward having good fields and redirect much toward feeding, sheltering and clothing their people. ;) :D It is also clear that many countries do not do that particularly well either.
     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $1 million isn't that much money in 2024... you can't get a condo for that much in some cities
     

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