Were they in fact "great" though? They beat Mexico and Canada. EL Tri is in a worse place than the USMNT currently. Canada were being lead by an interim coach. Then they failed to win the Gold Cup. Also, who is saying that the players don't have talent? Talent isn't the only factor in building a good team. It is certainly A factor, but it's one of many. This group of players is talented, however, they're not the best players in the world. They're not the best players for their club teams either. Outside of Pulisic who is consistently starting for a top club team? McKennie is for now, however, he was starting and playing because the two preferred players ahead of him were suspended for the season. Juve were actively trying to get rid of him prior to that, and are looking to off load him again now. The US lacks goal scorers. Their centerbacks are either aging out, or young and inexperienced. They have a huge question mark at goalkeeper. The midfield is good, outside of that, while talented there are questions at every position. Gregg is an issue as coach, but this player pool has failed to reach the standards of play of 2014, 2010, 2009, and 2002. Gregg should not have been brought back. Second cycle coaches rarely have continued success. In the case of the USMNT, they haven't had success in recent memory. The only question now is: does US Soccer have the courage to make the change in coaches?
Overhyped is always a terrible conversation because you need to establish the hype and then actual. Instead of just the actual. How would you rank out pool worldwide? There are certainly a large number of people who would rank us at or near the top 10, either explicitly or implicitly through their expectations of results. That's overhyped relative to performance, based on merely club play. Not everyone overhypes them, but plenty do.
Don't forget the Grenada and El Salvador matches where we played identical to what we did with Berhalter. And Berhalter has beaten Mexico plenty so this comes down to a Canada match and a Gold Cup where we did worse. Our talent is around 20th in the world. We're also young and clearly lack leadership. We don't have a lot of guys who are anything close to a leader on their club squads. There aren't a lot of intangibles that make me expect them to outperform talent. Doesn't mean we should keep Berhalter, obligatory, but there's not a lot of stepping up on the player side.
I don't want to see Matt Turner anymore, he sucks. You just got grouped by Bolivia and Panama bro. Such a weak loser mentality from our supposed #1. Plus, if I can kick a ball better than you, you shouldn't be on the national team.
mckennie saying anything is funny because nobody needs him to run through a wall get in shape, act like you care thats a good start.
It's all we got. After Turner options are slim. A couple of MLS options that many USMNT fans would start crying about if they take the #1 spot and Horvath who isn't that good either. Weak, weak, weak. "Best players ever", "golden generation". Wouldn't be surprised to see several of these "best generation of players ever" in MLS very soon.
"Do the right thing and walk away. Because you are not that guy... Get out of here." @MichaelRyanRuiz calls on Gregg Berhalter to resign and for USMNT to be aggressive in the hiring of their next manager ahead of the World Cup. WATCH: https://t.co/FcrvEkIS5d pic.twitter.com/p01QR4ZnoB— Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz (@LeBatardShow) July 2, 2024
Turner had a strong WC in 22, he was bang average in the Copa. This is not enough to say "you're fired", but it is enough to say "We will bring in people to compete with you, and you will have to prove it, on the field, that you deserve to be our #1 in '26".
He called them "hack media". The damage MLS causes goes much deeper than most on here are willing to look or have the smallest of clues. It’s clear that the American soccer public’s voice has become extremely powerful. - Hack media members are having to appear as though they are on the side of the public. - MLS/USSF are paying close attention to the public’s outrage over the USMNT getting grouped at Copa…— Joey Cascio (@Cascio_FG) July 3, 2024
Alexi Lalas with some pointed words USSF technical director, Matt Crocker."Matt Crocker needs to review? What, so he needs a spreadsheet, an Excel sheet, or a TED Talk or a retreat in order to figure it out? No. It's right there. You failed again."pic.twitter.com/Bq6MEFFiYs— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) July 3, 2024
Tab seems to get it. Let’s hope that after the new search we dont end with an MLS Coach. Need an experienced international coach to try to get the most out of this team. It’s an 18 to 24 month “project”.— Tab Ramos (@RamosTab) July 2, 2024
Alexi thinks a lot of his teammates from 1994 could make the current national team. This says so much about MLS. I'm not sure that red headed ass realizes it. Alexi lists some of his teammates from the 1994 USMNT World Cup roster that would’ve made the 2024 squad 👀 What are your thoughts on the players he named? 🤔🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/32dpyVqfGy— Alexi Lalas' State of the Union Podcast (@SOTUWithAlexi) July 3, 2024
If you truly believe that Crocker had a free hand to hire anyone else but Gregg I have some swamp land to sell you. You want this job here is your coach.
These guys aren't a fan and know that MLS ain't shit. Columbus? @JayAH985 @ConcacafEdgar @ManagerTactical @11Yanks @KnowerOfBans So far the best rant I’ve seen on the subject (outside of Twitter spaces) #USMNT @DanLeBatardShow pic.twitter.com/aVTerUO0fm— Joshua Mora (@JoshMora09) July 4, 2024
This guy thinks MLS is holding us back. The damage is real. The arrogance they have shown since 2017 is astonishing. This little experiment of theirs have ensured many would never support them. Look, I love MLS and have been a big defender of the league for many years… but have you noticed that they seem to be the root of most of our problems? Their slow growth and hold on the USSF is holding us back.— MLS Moves (@MLSMoves) July 3, 2024
"In our clubs they treat us like water boys, and the fans are horrible, most want us dead. So we come here and Gregg is just like a fan, he lets us do what we want with our time, and he himself cannot believe he has us around, he's a big fan of the big European leagues and got all our autographs, his dream was playing there but, well, he's a nice man but as for football, it's not really his thing. It's nice to be somewhere where we are appreciated and not hear every day how much we suck."
Messy!!! My feeling is this is far more intricate than people realize. The lack of movement on the decision is directly tied to MLS power brokers and their pervasion within USSF hierarchy. Berhalter is an MLS guy. And optics of his removal + MLS interests are at heart of delay in removal— The Football Lounge (@FootballLoungee) July 3, 2024
and yet the budget for hiring a new coach is so tight?!?!?!? usmnt cant afford the top guns but can afford a high priced figurehead that does absolutely nothing and can afford a million dollar consultancy sportsology to recommend a coach???? its all so absurd
its not just "optics" the way that ussf operates and wants to operate requires an insider...someone who wont rock the boat and will be fine that many of the decisions the fed makes are about dollars and not technical concerns..... this really limits the pool ......unless the ussf wants to actually compete and join the rest of us in 2024 gregg ticks all of their boxes hes an mls stooge that wont rock the boat.....and thats what they need.
I'm not suggesting GGG was rehired to moot any lawsuit he might have brought over the Reyna affair, but a reasonable defense lawyer might have suggested it. He's now failed again on the merits and can be fired without inviting a lawsuit. He should have resigned already.
This again? A MLS stooge who doesn't play any MLS players? There's plenty to criticize Gregg over, but I don't understand how anyone still believes this narrative. Let me guess... you think he tanked Copa America with all Euro players to give himself an excuse to start 11 MLS players from now on?