Match 53 (R16): JPN : CRO - ELFATH (USA)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Refereeing' started by balu, Dec 3, 2022.

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What do you think of Elfath's performance?

Poll closed Dec 6, 2022.
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  1. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not so much the score bug from Fox though.
     
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  2. GoneSouth

    GoneSouth Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    JP: “GOAL, Croatia wins!”

    Someone should tell him they still tied…
     
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  3. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Went smoother than COL:ENG for sure.
     
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  4. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oof on those kicks. Kudos to the keeper but they didn’t exactly make it hard for him.
     
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  5. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I have to say those were some really awful takes by Japan.
     
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  6. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Film study... Don't be predictable.
     
  7. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Well done by the crew today. Here’s hoping they get 1 more!
     
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  8. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR


    I have a pure black and white coin. It’s great
     
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  9. Lucky Wilbury

    Lucky Wilbury Member

    Mar 19, 2012
    United States
    I'm not seeing any of this. I saw one toss to explain which side they would kick at. It turned up green, so they went to left (as we're facing it), and Atkins pointed that way to make sure.

    The 2nd toss was to see which team won the toss and who got to choose. He again assigned colors, it came up blue, and then Japan chose to kick first. Elfath explained that Croatia would kick 2nd, they all shook hands, and they were done.
     
  10. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    Respect to Perisic.
     
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  11. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Not the first KFTPM toss, the pre-game toss
     
  12. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, the extra time coin toss.
     
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  13. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Extra time, not KFTM.
     
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  14. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    D'oh. It takes a village.

    And I am apparently its idiot.
     
  15. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Ok, so, if the first half was a 7. The second half and extra time was a 9.

    Took it clean through kicks and had one of the most impressive squashings of a soft penalty shout that I may have ever seen.

    Good selections on cautions. By the end the players were buying everything he was selling.

    Just not quite the flare of the last game, but a solid job by growing into the game. So, what is it...??

    9.

    That's a review.
     
  16. Lucky Wilbury

    Lucky Wilbury Member

    Mar 19, 2012
    United States
    Well, it's now pretty clear that we need time stamps for the damn coin tosses if we're now talking about 3 different coin tosses immediately after the conclusion of the KFTM coin toss....
     
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  17. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't believe I'm saying this given a lot of other factors both coming into and during this tournament, but it seems pretty close to a certainty. Faghani blowing himself up is the biggest outside factor in Team Elfath's favor. Add in that he's the hot hand with no issues in 210 minutes and some made-for-media moments, and it's just a no-brainer.

    I think the only thing left standing in his way is Seneme's desire to get a CONMEBOL referee on the final three matches. But that seems almost entirely contingent on Brazil being eliminated today. So I guess if you're an Elfath fan, you're not a Korea Republic fan.
     
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  18. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    1. Most popular ref in the tournament
    2. World class ARs
    3. “Good enough” technical skills
    4. A+ VAR experience

    Collina was a big personality himself, I’m sure he is loving this.
     
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  19. jarbitro

    jarbitro Member+

    Mar 13, 2003
    N'Djamena, Tchad
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Waiting to pounce from the top rope on anyone who says, "ya know, the teams were there to play and no CMI, so it just wasn't that hard of a game..."
     
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  20. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    It used to be the case. List had to be submitted to referee for the first five. Not sure when that stopped.

    PH
     
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  21. bluedevils

    bluedevils Member

    Nov 17, 2002
    USA
    Catch me if you can
     
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  22. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Thaks. I didn’t know that. Does help explain why some think it’s required. Anyone know if that was ever in the magic book, or was just ROC? (I know in my 70’s LOTG KFTM aren’t there, but KFTM we’re being used by then.)
     
  23. Irrover

    Irrover New Member

    Jan 6, 2014
    Club:
    Ventura County F.



    FAQs

    At a penalty kick, the goalkeeper has one foot in front of the goal line and one behind it at the moment the ball is kicked. The goalkeeper saves the kick and prevents the ball from entering the goal. What is the referee’s decision?

    The amended Law 14 requires the defending goalkeeper to have at least part of one foot touching, in line with, or behind, the goal line until the moment the ball is kicked. Therefore, the goalkeeper has not committed an offence and the referee allows play to continue.
     
  24. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    To clarify, I was talking about the requirement that the goalkeeper remains on the goal line (and not behind it) during the run-up to the kick. Goalkeepers are allowed to have one foot behind the line at the moment of the kick now, but IFAB included the following note when they made that change:

    "Explanation of this amendment should emphasise that the ‘spirit’ of the Law requires the goalkeeper to have both feet on/above the line until the moment when the kick is taken, i.e. the goalkeeper may not stand behind (or in front of) the goal line."

    Didn't wind up becoming relevant here, but I seem to recall there was at least one kick from MLS Cup that was exactly like this but went uncalled.
     
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  25. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jonathan Wilson (author "Inverting the Pyramid") has suggested for years to wipe out the group stage yellows after the Round of 16. That way there's never a game where a player can cynically commit a yellow card offense knowing it's going to be immediately wiped out
     
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