Injuries aside, was Peak Neymar better than any non-Messi player this era?

Honestly I just think you are not that intelligent. You cant reason.

Nobody has said that goals and assists are not important nor the most important thing.

It is very simple and obvious. There are important things players do on the pitch that are shown via goals and assists and therr are important things players do on the pitch that are not shown via goals and assists.

If goals and assists was all that mattered, Zidane would be an average player and Modrić would be a bad one.

Funnily enough, Neymar does a lot of similar things that Zidane does on the pitch.

It is unquestionable:

 

You ought to be reminded that you are a guy who cannot interpret a basic x,y plot as evidenced yesterday. You fail to grasp basic mathematical concepts and go on rants exposing your limitstions. Should I quote your posts where another poster (that happens to have a very personal grudge) absolutely schooled you?
If I am unintelligent, I fear to think what that makes you?
Your post is impertinent since you did not address on iota of what I had said - which is no valid analysis would exclude the most valuable elements of the game.

 

@SayWhatIWant

Deleting posts? Calling moderators?

Dude, you are the biggest cancer here spreading everywhere. Half of your posts are personal attacks and you rarely say anything with an insight.

 

I posted in the wrong thread, so it was deleted.
Shall we compile your aggressions against me? We can start with the post above.

 

I am a jerk and go for low blows, especially over the internet with unknown person, but at least i tell the truth.

 

Fantastic, hope the moderators can see this admission.

Edit:
The truth being your biased, limited outlook on football which at best starts in 2010 (probably much later)?
I provided you countless times with videos and evidence and your best answer has been - I'll see it later.

 

How a person can play that good post a surgery…

https://x.com/stopthatneymar_/status/1700541954679869675?s=46

 

When all hope is lost

🚨🇧🇷 | Peruvian shamans trying to put a curse on Neymar before tonight’s World Cup Qualifier.

pic.twitter.com/AC9V9EabiB

— All Things Brazil™ 🇧🇷 (@SelecaoTalk) September 12, 2023

I know a lot of people may see the humorous side this but in reality this is fuc*ing evil.

 

No it isn't. Grow up.

 

Black magic rituals are not evil?
It is evil whether you believe it is real or fictional

Even on a moral level(religion and ‘superstition’ aside)
The guys in that clip were performing that ritual because they clearly believe it is real otherwise why the hell would they be doing it?

And they believe what they were doing would cause physical harm to another human being for no other reason than he is an amazing footballer who will likely destroy their team in less than 24 hours

Whether what they clearly believe in will actually manifest into reality is not exactly relevant.
Actually it is irrelevant

Their intentions are evil and so are they

 

Maybe try forums based around philosophy and morality

 

Ok hideous beast

 

Lol good one. I sense my middle school joke that i used as a nickname to stay anonymous online is throwing some people off and makes me seem arrogant. That explains some things

 

Highest rated CL KO stage campaigns according to sofascore

Finalists only


Cristiano Ronaldo 2013/14
8.48


Lionel Messi 2010/11
8.44


Lionel Messi 2014/15
8.30


Cristiano Ronaldo 2016/17
8.22


Robert lewandowski 2019/20
8.10


Karim benzema 2021/22
8.05


Xavi Hernandez 2008/09
7.98


Cristiano Ronaldo 2017/18
7.87


Mohammed salah 2017/18
7.75


Luis Suarez 2014/15
7.72


Cristiano Ronaldo 2015/16
7.65


Neymar Jr 2019/20
7.65


Neymar Jr 2014/15
7.62


Ronaldinho gaucho 2005/06
7.62


Thierry Henry 2005/06
7.55


Lionel Messi 2008/09
7.55


Cristiano Ronaldo 2008/09
7.31


Erling haaland 2022/23
7.30


Ricardo Kaka 2006/07
7.27


Ricardo Kaka 2004/05
7.18


Cristiano Ronaldo 2007/08
7.05


Kylian mbappe 2019/20
6.92




@Isaías Silva Serafim @lessthanjake @SayWhatIWant @Sexy Beast

 

Highest rated CL groupstage campaigns according to sofascore


Lionel Messi 2018/19
9.27


Neymar Jr 2017/18
8.81


Lionel Messi 2014/15
8.78


Lionel Messi 2011/12
8.68


Lionel Messi 2016/17
8.65


Robert lewandowski 2019/20
8.60


Cristiano Ronaldo 2013/14
8.56


Cristiano Ronaldo 2015/16
8.56


Cristiano Ronaldo 2011/12
8.44


Cristiano Ronaldo 2017/18
8.38


Lionel Messi 2022/23
8.35


Cristiano Ronaldo 2009/10
8.32


Neymar 2015/16
8.22


Lionel Messi 2010/11
8.20


Zlatan ibrahimovic 2013/14
8.12

 

Ney it's a phenom regarding talent and even physically, he deserves more praise than he receives.
I really like the mofo. His PSG choice and some injuries (and his own lifestyle outside the pitch) might have hurt his legacy, but he still is an off the charts player.

 

Ratings are somewhat subjective.

The two characteristics of Neymar that make him so admired are the fact that, after Messi, he is the player with the most dribbles and key passes in the last 15 years. In this case, only Messi has had a comparable performance in these two aspects.

Neymar is also a great finisher, as his Brazil NT figures show, but this trait at club level has been limited due to injuries.

 

This tally likely includes the goals scored by Pele for Brazil against teams other than national teams. Brazil played several matches against club teams and combination teams (a recent such match I can remember is Brazil vs Barcelona in 1999, in which both R9 and Rivaldo scored for Brazil).