Germany's Quest to Not Embarrass Itself, the WC26+NL24-25 Thread

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, May 21, 2024.

  1. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agree. We are much more fluid. Yep, kleindhienst has traits of a proper center forward. His movement and strength is brilliant. All he needs is a first goal which will elevate him further.
     
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  2. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Undav is best utilised off a forward. Against Bosnia he played off kleindhienst whose movement created alot of space for Undav.

    For me Fullkrug and Kliendienst as the main center forwards.
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think its still open, in 1st match vs Dutch the 2-2 D, Undav played sole CF and had 1 goal and 1 assist in that match. So he can play with or without partner. We need to see more of him playing sole CF in NT.

    Undav in XI=3 goals and 1 assist in 2 games, productive in 2/2.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    so we know that the Dutch aren't a real issue and then add that Pengland is in League B, LMAO. That's 2 rival countries that should be less of a threat to win.

    I'm glad we qualified better to practice QF-onwards round than play friendlies in March.
     
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  5. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hope I dont put the mockers on him. We have a potential Great Player in Pavlovic. His ball retention under pressure, his calmness on the ball is unique, For a guy of his age.
     
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  6. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Pengland
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on topic of Undav, I mentioned in past before he got NT call up that he reminds me of Volland.

    both are 1.79m tall bulky tanks like CFs but that Undav had far far more potential than Volland and more complete game.

    and more importantly Volland was 100% ineffective for NT could never finish its why Low never had any patience for him.


    my post from Nov 2023,
    "he's a more rounded version of Volland, same height, similar build too but more promising tbh. Yeah Undav can play sole CF and also 2 man CF, both."
     
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  8. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Who has the rights to this shit here in the US?
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    one thing I like about Nagelsmann as a coach is he looks to be back to his Hoffenheim+RB Leipzig days where he can make almost any player fit the system and look good.

    there was always talk about how players who excelled under Nagelsmann's tutelage flop or go downwards once they leave him. Even a Werner's peak career was under Nagelsmann too.

    when was last time we had a coach in NT who could make any player look good, LOL. Last time was Low era during end of peak times aka CC17.

    Low's blunder was that he never was able to integrate the CC17 with the core team.

    And Flick was HUGE L when it came to integration and core team.

    like Andrich, Gross, Leweling, Kleindienst, Undav, Mittelstadt, Pavlovic, Stiller, Burkardt etc. Some if one wants to be honest would likely NEVER EVER have gotten NT call up if one plays the World class-Elite or bust mentality but all looking to perform, LOL.

    I think Nagelsmann not having to bother with Neuer, Gundo, Muller, Kroos, etc anymore could be a benefit as I think most of these were downwards trending.

    this is what we need, a team where it all feels seamless and not a HUGE mess.
     
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  10. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    Baumann showed good ability on the ball. His performance was pretty positive. He's a good back-up to have.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yeah - fingers crossed. He solves the biggest problem in midfield.
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    he's managed the transition really well IMO

    In his first purge he kept enough of the core for stability, and gave the team an identity around a recalled Toni Kroos instead of the failed Kimmich+Goretzka era

    Now he's moved on completely, but i don't think he could have jumped straight to this point. Guys like Andrich, Wirtz, Musiala, Schlotterbeck who were still pretty new are now the old faces with only a couple of veterans in Kimmich, Gnabry and Rudiger.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    He's definitely created an identifiable style
     
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  14. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  15. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    How funny is that Germany started to look solid when Julian decided to revert to the basic approach in football i.e playing with a proper centre forward. Just stop with the KH7 experiment, he got no business in the starting eleven. As for now, he's an option coming off the bench.
     
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  16. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    It's also a pleasant surprise that Lewelling is now a NT player. And what a cracking goal that was!
     
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  17. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The pressing is also far better coordinated and we can actually counter more effectively as well. Two more basics that were almost non existent in the last couple of years
     
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  18. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Now here's hoping Germany will get to hold on to Wanner. Kid is destined for greatness.
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    That for me is the main improvement - all the structures work properly - and when you bring in new players they can just do their job inside the system
     
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  21. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Arise the GOAT of the Bundesliga lol
     
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  22. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Link to the highlights anyone?
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
     
  24. lamcam

    lamcam Member

    May 19, 2004
    California
    Bayern was stupid to fire him, and hired Tuchel!!
     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    problem with Bayern is they have 0 patience and no real interest to build a project with any coach long term.

    Tuchel then bombed all 3 competitions, LOL.

    Flick was axed for sake of Brazzo/Kahn............who both later on got fired themselves, LOL.
     
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