Dual nationals who could suit up for the US.

juvechelsea · Oct 28, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Sabbi

Ghanaian heritage, Italian born, US YNTs. Plays forward in Denmark.

juvechelsea · Oct 28, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kekuta_Manneh

Winger, Gambian, has US passport, currently in Switzerland.

juvechelsea · Oct 28, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desevio_Payne

Born SC to TnT/Dutch parents, plays in Holland, RB. Played for US YNTs.

ussoccer97531 · Oct 28, 2018

Scott and Sabbi both most recently played for USYNT's. Sabbi is provisionally cap-tied.

juvechelsea · Oct 28, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duane_Holmes

Born GA raised England currently at Derby. Mid.

juvechelsea · Oct 28, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gboly_Ariyibi

Winger, Notts Forest, born VA, grew up Nigeria/England, played for USYNT.

juvechelsea · Oct 28, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Toljan

Mentioned above by someone, RB, spot player for Dortmund, but has a straight line of Germanys on up to Olympics.

juvechelsea · Oct 28, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Lankford

Mid, German born, plays in the B.2, has played US YNT.

Excellency · Oct 28, 2018

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Maybe he is referring to "in a few years" with the next World Cup in mind. He would no doubt stick with the Netherlands if they qualify and want him for their senior team, and I think that's the most likely scenario. But I could envision a scenario in which he flips to the US in late 2021 or early 2022. Say he is a solid Oranje U21/U23 regular but is not cap-tied to their senior team yet, and they fail to qualify for the WC again given how difficult their UEFA competition is (for 2018, they didn't even make it to the 2nd round of qualifying), and the US qualifies out of CONCACAF despite having no strong solution at left back. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think it has to be cut-and-dry that he is not called up to the Dutch at any level for him and his agent to flip to the US. If the Dutch don't qualify and they've not yet cap-tied him and he is still a U21 player for them, I think we have a good shot, even if the Dutch want him. He would have to ask himself whether he wants to be with a team that didn't qualify, or play in a WC for a team that did.
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You would have no problem telling the guy who qualified us to go eff himself because a dutch guy who couldn't qualify Holland is taking his place.

I've never understood that mentality. Is it meant to boost morale or are you a sociopath?

deejay · Oct 29, 2018

Suyuntuy said: ↑

Relying on duals is a crapshoot, we get one Jones for each ten Diskeruds or Aronjos.

Careful with immediately promoting to the front of the line a player just because he was lucky to have the right passport early in life.
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Unless they play leftback. Any warm body is ok.

deejay · Oct 29, 2018

BTW that Wooten guy has been on fire last month.

Suyuntuy · Oct 29, 2018

Wooten is good, I used to follow him. The problem is the injuries. Not just that his injuries tend to be the sort that takes him out for months, but that unlike other players it takes him long to get back in form after an injury.

So the guy goes out for 3 months injured, he'll be riding pine not match fit for another six weeks at least.

#8or#6 · Oct 29, 2018

ussoccer97531 said: ↑

Fans don't care about his case that much because they can't say he defected to our biggest rival.
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Unfair and doubtful generalization. Ascribing motives to one person, much less an entire subset of posters, is a quick path to bias.

DHC1 · Nov 1, 2018

Excellency said: ↑

You would have no problem telling the guy who qualified us to go eff himself because a dutch guy who couldn't qualify Holland is taking his place.

I've never understood that mentality. Is it meant to boost morale or are you a sociopath?
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I have zero problem with this and don't think many players do. Once someone's in the pool, we play whomever makes the team better. If there's someone better that you, you don't pout, you train harder.

gunnerfan7 · Nov 1, 2018

Excellency said: ↑

You would have no problem telling the guy who qualified us to go eff himself because a dutch guy who couldn't qualify Holland is taking his place.

I've never understood that mentality. Is it meant to boost morale or are you a sociopath?
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Are you not supposed to bring the best team possible to the World Cup?

#8or#6 · Nov 1, 2018

DHC1 said: ↑

I have zero problem with this and don't think many players do. Once someone's in the pool, we play whomever makes the team better. If there's someone better that you, you don't pout, you train harder.
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...and it happens at the U-17,U-20 levels every cycle.

juvechelsea · Nov 2, 2018

https://www.houstondynamo.com/post/...defender-erik-mccue-homegrown-player-contract
https://www.houstondynamo.com/players/erik-mccue

No idea if he's any good and dimensionally he sounds like a potential stick figure in the Omar mold, but a dual national Swede signed to Dynamo first team at 17.

deejay · Nov 2, 2018

Suyuntuy said: ↑

Wooten is good, I used to follow him. The problem is the injuries. Not just that his injuries tend to be the sort that takes him out for months, but that unlike other players it takes him long to get back in form after an injury.

So the guy goes out for 3 months injured, he'll be riding pine not match fit for another six weeks at least.
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Maybe he'll be 2022's JOB?

juvechelsea · Nov 2, 2018

Wooten has already been US-capped back in 2015, was eligible for both US and Germany. He plays a somewhat stocked position and is already 29, would be 33 if you play what I call the +4 math game, that I think wise NT coaches should do. If he'd broken into the team like Dempsey I wouldn't care on age but I'm not sure what the value is on a player that old who hasn't made a case already.

But after you've wandered around why not give him a look.

For perspective he's older than Terrence Boyd, Zardes, Dwyer, same age as Sapong.

If there's an oft injured dual national player (committed) I'd like to see back, whose age isn't quite as bad, it's AJ.

Suyuntuy · Nov 2, 2018

The good thing about Wooten is that he shoots on goal about half of his chances, which is a high rate for a Yank striker.

The bad thing is that his getting in form is always a prelude for an injury. And with him, injuries are long-term because of the time he takes to get back in form.

Today he scored and he's looking good. That's usually a bad sign.

ChuckMe92 · Nov 2, 2018

I think the top young US-eligible dual-nationals who are currently with another country are:
Kik Pierie
Folarin Balogun
Efrain Alvarez
Maurice Malone
Jordan Siebatcheu
Malik Tillman (and Timothy to a lesser degree)
Ian Hoffmann (but in all likelihood he will be with the US in the long run)

There's another tier of ones who I don't know enough yet about but could well be valuable:
Alejandro Iturbe
Alex Alcala
Andres Perea
Matko Miljevic
Anel Sabanadzovic
Armando and Samuel Shashoua
Leon Flach
Ilan Sauter
Oisin McEntee
Lateef Omidiji
Andre Costa
Joao Lucas
Almost certainly some other names I'm forgetting.

ChuckMe92 · Nov 3, 2018

Missouri-born defensive midfielder Anel Sabanadzovic, who I mentioned above, is reportedly moving to AEK Athens. Announced just a few days ago.

https://www.mozzartsport.com/fudbal...u-aek-u-rekordan-transfer-zeljeznicara/310186
https://sport1.ba/premijer-liga-bih...-mislim-da-ce-biti-bolji-igrac-od-mene/135790

LouisZ · Nov 5, 2018

Suyuntuy said: ↑

Wooten is good, I used to follow him. The problem is the injuries. Not just that his injuries tend to be the sort that takes him out for months, but that unlike other players it takes him long to get back in form after an injury.

So the guy goes out for 3 months injured, he'll be riding pine not match fit for another six weeks at least.
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Wooten is in the same boat as Boyd. Never made the next level due to club and/or injuries.

juvechelsea · Nov 5, 2018

ChuckMe92 said: ↑

Missouri-born defensive midfielder Anel Sabanadzovic, who I mentioned above, is reportedly moving to AEK Athens. Announced just a few days ago.

https://www.mozzartsport.com/fudbal...u-aek-u-rekordan-transfer-zeljeznicara/310186
https://sport1.ba/premijer-liga-bih...-mislim-da-ce-biti-bolji-igrac-od-mene/135790
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19 year old DM.....

juvechelsea · Nov 5, 2018

LouisZ said: ↑

Wooten is in the same boat as Boyd. Never made the next level due to club and/or injuries.
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If we're saying upped his game that's what I'd say is pivotal, Boyd was interesting but he just started getting hurt and didn't progress. If we're saying B.1 vs B.2 I think we've done fine by quite a few B.2 players.