Copa America 2024?

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by HomietheClown, Nov 17, 2022.

  1. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Their marketing works too because people are too lazy to watch and interpret games themselves

    People will believe anything. There's no shame
     
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  2. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    All of those other veterans have looked great within qualifiers at one point or another and Lorenzo obviously takes that into account.
    I am not saying it is right or wrong but just pointing it out. I agree that I would have liked to have seen Duran/Yaser more in this tournament.
     
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  4. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    FWIW: The fans sitting next to me were a group of Colombians from Virginia who travelled to all the group games out west and they said every game - there was no drama getting in / out of the stadium.

    I've been to about a dozen live Colombia games since 2006 (all friendlies, CA16 against Peru and CA24 against Argentina) and other than this past sunday, never witnessed any drama. This was 95% of the blame on the stadium / Miami-Dade PD / Conmebol - what would have helped immensely was someone from the stadium taking a leadership role and making announcements about the gate entry process. instead it was silence from the security which only made the fans more riled up....plus the 90 degree heat and people bunched up rather than being in lines
     
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  5. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Tbf

    the fact that it was a final invited the crazies

    We’ve been to many games, never a final for Colombia
     
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  6. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  7. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #1157 dapip, Jul 16, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2024
    Hi guys, back from vacation, just in time to see the heartbreaking loss against Argentina. I will not comment much on the tickets incidents, other than saying that Hard Rock Stadium, Miami-Dade, Conmebol and Concacaf need to step up their game for further events (further security rings and make the resale of tickets more difficult and through only one platform).

    Regarding the game and the tournament, I'm proud of the team and I think Lorenzo has done an amazing job with a rather humble roster. Here are my 5 takeaways from the final:

    1. As I said, we're not a super talented team, but an OK team with a few very talented guys; Argentina knew that and they focused on James and Lucho, forced them out of their comfort zones and made the flow of our game way more difficult than any other opponent; also, we missed Muñoz and his offensive punch on the right wing.

    2. Argentina had an easier calendar and they were more rested and you could see that in the Extra time.

    3. Argentina has been in 6 finals in the last 10 years, so they know how to face this kind of game and what it takes to win them. That we extended them 112 minutes, talks very well about what Lorenzo has done with the team.

    4. Scaloni is a great coach and he knew how to play us and he knew that he didn't need to overwhelm Colombia, just score one more goal. He knew where to place Di Maria, he knew where to send the balls, and he knew when to send the subs. Give him credit because they are a great team.

    5. If I have something to criticize Lorenzo for, is his subs management. I think he should have subbed Cordoba earlier, and that putting in Uribe, Borja and Carrascal all in at the same time messed up with the team functioning. I disagree with those who felt that we needed to see more of Yaser or Duran, but I do think that we could have sent Sinisterra in instead of Borre, and anyone instead of Uribe. At the end mistakes by the subs (Quintero and Castaño, plus Uribe's lethargic pace) allowed Argentina's subs to create the chance for their goal. OTOH, who know how would that have worked, if Lorenzo had made his substitutions differently.
     
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  8. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I will say I have been to every Colombia game they played in New York and only time I had ever seen anything was a friendly vs Venezuela’s someone threw a bottle at Falcao. Not sure the fan base but I was like wow… if that was Teo that guy would have been in a body bag

    like always drunk idiots where you go. We seemed well behaved until the semis. Then the final think people were just drunk since Thursday night to think that was acceptable
     
  9. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    I would be shocked if FCF is not sanctioned for WCQ for all the incidents from this Copa.

    As it is, next match at home I think El Metropolitano can only sell 75% capacity which will be no other vs Argentina!

    I say, do it, and hope it's severe. While I know most of us aren't responsible for our neighbor's actions, there has to be some accountability and it starts where it hurts the FCF the most. In their wallets. It's rather embarrassing to see so much neg coverage, including the FCF president's arrest, of this whole episode.

    I was thinking, they should have a "if you see something say something" text hotline constantly posted everywhere in the stadiums, where people can become part of the solution.

    same with taking away your ticket if you're caught trying to sneak in any booze, I don't care if it's abuelita. And speaking of booze, and I do drink, they need to limit the sale of alcohol. It was done in Qatar with some exceptions so there's no reason it can't be done for the big dance here in the states for 26'. People can still tail gate and drink at specific fan zones and call it a day.
     
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  10. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I do not think FCF can be sanctioned. It is similar to when Mexico plays in the USA. They rarely ever punish Mexico cause they can just say the fans are from the USA not from Colombia.
    (Hard to prove either way and they are not going to investigate that deeply.)
     
  11. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Mexico has a lot of pull and $$$$ for Concacaf. Just like Arg + Brazil do for Conmebol. The upcoming sanction in September vs Argentina was due to fan behavior in away and home games. It's nonsense to say 'they can't prove it'.

    Mexico HAS been sanctioned for the "Hijo de****" rants after every opposing kick. And guess what, it's worked. They've payed heavy fines and have had to even play games with no supporters.

    Yes there is still some of it going on but I've even seen games stopped by the ref, and all 22 players have to come to the middle of the pitch and the fans are warned of probable game cancelation if it continues which just pisses off everyone.... so they stop.

    So again, they CAN be sanctioned and I'm willing to bet they will. You may not be able to "prove" which specific fans are mostly responsible so FIFA/Conmebol will need to put the ownership on the Federations to make it clear that this will indeed only hurt their team.
     
  12. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It's very possible and Argentina won't be the only team cosigning either. I can see Uruguay and possibly Brasil saying the same statement.
     
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  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    That is within the same confederation though.
    This being a true neutral site may be be more difficult for any sanctions to be handed out. Colombia can take it to FIFA and even The court of arbitration if they wanted to. They would have a good case to not get sanctioned.
     
  14. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It was fans with Colombia uniforms in the US. Fans in Barranquilla didn’t do anything
     
  15. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    They also caused some mayhem in WCQ, hence the current sanctions that limit capacity to 75% to be dealt with in our Sept home game. We have to do better!
     
  16. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  17. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

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  18. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  19. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No Canadians? Who did this list a Venezuelan?

    No Lerma, Munoz, Lautaro is kind of criminal haha
     
  20. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why is Messi there
     
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  21. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Because
     
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  22. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    what did Caicedo do that gave him a better cup them Lerma? Martinez had 1 goal against all Cup and shut us out.... so not being top Gk is funny

    More Venezuelans than Colombians when we made it to the final scoring 12 times haha.
     
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  23. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  24. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Can’t wait to smash them in quilla
     
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  25. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hey is it true that the players refused to show up nor celebrate their achievement of reaching the final in general?

    There's a lot of talk of how diffcult it is for the team as a whole letting go of the loss and I am concerned.
     

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