Breakout Youth Player in MLS/USL 2023 edition

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, Dec 17, 2022.

  1. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sad that most of these players turned out flat.
     
  2. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, Araujo looks like a good La Liga player, and the other guys didn't in Serie A.
     
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  3. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, he's a better player than Scally. Scally has a non-descript game. Araujo's a difference maker with recovery speed and defensive awareness. That means he'd have a role for the US in tougher games where Dest's defense is a question.

    Correct, I saw interviews where people were delusionally hyping up those guys to him, saying it'd be hard to breakthrough. Then for the USMNT even our coaches were playing Herrera & an injured + out of position McKenzie over him. It was short-sighted & cost us probably.
     
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  4. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    There is a chance that we will be sorry that he didn't get any minutes at U-20 WC, sitting behind Dest even after Dest was destroyed by Ukrainians. That's, probably, how we got Dest and lost Araujo.
     
  5. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    Dest wasn't really destroyed by Ukraine. He made a big mistake, for sure (he also played a big part in the US' goal). Anyway, Dest is 10x the player Araujo is, and that's considering their play on both sides of the ball. I mean, it would be great to have Araujo as depth, but Scally is also better than him, so....
     
  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Scally isn't close, Dest is. He did contribute to the goal, but was totally lost on defense.
     
  7. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    Scally just assisted in a BL match. He has a goal this season. I think Scally is an outstanding defender that doesn't provide much offense, but he's capable. He'd be a great alternative to Dest. I'll take a 20 year that is in his 4th year of being a regular in a solid BL side over a 22 that is just breaking into a solid LL side.

    JA is demonstrative - Scally is not. That seems to be what you're going on.
     
  8. barçafan0806

    barçafan0806 New Member

    F.C. Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 12, 2023
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I'm really enjoying watching Paxten Aaronson grow at Frankfurt, and I was very excited to see him get a call up for the USMNT. I think both him and Brenden are great and have bright futures ahead. Brenden getting loaned out from Leeds seems like it might be a small set-back, but I feel confident he'll bounce back better than ever.
     
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  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Who's our winner here? Noel Buck? Cremaschi? Schulte?
     
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  10. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Even though he finished the season injured, Neal should be in consideration for top breakout player in 2023.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Duncan McGuire.

    Olympics eligible, so still considered "youth" according to these boards.

    Finished 2nd amongst USMNT-eligible goalscorers in MLS.

    I'd vote for him.

    Schulte in 2nd. In 2022 he was the MLS Next Pro goalkeeper of the Year.
    Established himself as the #1 in Columbus, and won MLS Cup.
    He's also Olympics-eligible.

    Lots of honorable mentions.
    I'll throw Kamungo of Dallas out there. He really came from nowhere. Signed to North Texas after an open tryout. Just plucked him off the damn street. I don't think even the most diehard of FCD fans expected anything from him.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Intriguing young player being signed by NYRB.
     
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  13. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we need a new thread for 2024? @Eleven Bravo, what say you?
     
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  14. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roald? Must be named after the author. I once coached a kid from Nigeria who was named after an author (can't remember his name) and his brother was also - Nathaniel.
     
  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sort of interesting the Everton interest given he hasn’t been able to really breakthrough in MLS quite yet. Even after a loan to Austin that was for the purpose of getting him minutes.

     
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  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Such is the state of the World.
    A US-eligible kid has trouble getting on the field at two MLS clubs, and then he's of interest to Everton. I can only guess that they scouted him at the U20 World Cup. Craig played well with that team.

    Brandon Craig is a soon-to-be 20 year old that has played a grand total of 3 MLS minutes.

    It kinda sucks that Philly couldn't find playing time for him, so they did the right thing. They loaned him to Austin. Unfortunately, Austin then didn't play him either. Sucks.
     
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  17. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Sounds like Joe Scalley.
     
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  18. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point and fair comparison.
     
  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Scalley went over to Germany at 18; he didn't get minutes at NYCFC but he was significantly younger and I think NYCFC knew he was going.
     
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  20. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Counterpoint: CBs mature later than RBs and Everton>Gladbach.

    Otherwise, everything else sort of matches. Both with HGP contracts for three years with virtually no minutes.
     
  21. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Sure. But I don't think it is similar in the sense that Scally was always a sign and move, while I think Craig simply got stuck behind a locked in and almost always healthy CB pairing in Philly and then got a late loan to a disaster of an Austin side.

    No one wants to take risks at CB, but I really don't see where Everton is going with this. I'll be shocked if there's movement here -- I don't think he's fast enough for the EPL, even with his passing.

    There are other leagues that are probably better suited for him than the EPL or MLS.
     
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  22. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    FWIW, the connection in my mind is that Scalley is proof that forcing your way into MLS minutes is no longer necessary before a successful transfer to Europe. That said, Everton are probably planning for Championship. They've been flirting with relegation for a while now.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everton aren't going to be in the Championship unless they have more points deducted. If they do get relegated they'll get $75 million in parachute payments next season, which is more than 3x the Championship average payroll.
     
  24. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    So, what's their plan for Craig?
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's on trial allegedly. He also had a trial for Liverpool when he was 15.
     

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