2024 Concacaf Champions Cup

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  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #2901 Nico Limmat, Jun 3, 2024
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2024
    The British media has historically gone out of its way to deride the CWC. Especially publications aimed at “Little Britain”. The rest of the European media hasn’t been quite so hostile. Certainly not the German and Spanish media that I consume.

    The CWC is highly regarded in many places. For example, the estimated 30 million fans of “Al Kebab” think it’s a big deal.
     
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  2. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, the corner spaces were carved out of the oval shape for the 1984 Olympics.
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #2903 Nico Limmat, Jun 3, 2024
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2024
    Most recently? USD 16.5M in total for seven matches. Winner gets 5M.

    Also, USD 50M are not yet confirmed for 2025:
    https://www.sounderatheart.com/2024/06/sounders-club-world-cup-host-payout/

    It always sounded a bit high to me.
     
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  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I’ve attended five CWC tournaments in the UAE over the years. The Libertadores winners had about 15K travelling support every time. In late December in the pre-Christmas period. Apparently Corinthians had up to 30K traveling fans in Yokohama when they beat Chelsea.
     
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  6. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but LAFC was generally considered one of the favorites going into 2023 (bubble or not, that incredible 2020 run left an impression).
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And if it hadn't been for that beri beri outbreak in the LAFC locker room they could have won it.:)
     
  9. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Let's be honest. CWC might be a big deal for the rest of the world (including us) but for the top European soccer nations it isn't. The Champions League is way more competitive than anything CWC can offer. The UCL is the real CWC. It just so happens that in the CWC for the rest of us we can see the rest of the world go up against the best clubs in the world. That's why it matters to the rest of us but not so much for Europe.

    True. Tigres and LAFC were the favorites based on how they were drawn in the bracket. Still remember reading on social media fans saying CONCACAF set them up like that to help MLS. Lol These people are clueless that it is a draw.
     
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't you know that everything is a conspiracy? I heard it on social media.

    Tim Berners-Lee has a lot to answer for.
     
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  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ahem... speaking of conspiracies :cautious:



    (if true... then we can lay the "[insert team/league] doesn't care about CCL/Champions Cup" argument to rest :ROFLMAO:)
     
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  12. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't see above the paywall, anything good?
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8ss20h.jpg
     
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  14. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most the the team and all the staff became ill after eating a meal on Thursday evening. Meal was prepared by the hotel with the direction of the Crew training staff.
     
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  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it's anything like what happened to our MNT the last time we visited Mexico for WCQ, the Crew probably ate salad that had been rinsed with tap water.
     
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  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I missed that story.
     
  17. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Maybe that episode gained less traction because their stomach bug resulted in the biggest rout in favor of USA during 2022 WC qualifiers.

    Drew 0-0 at Azteca stadium, multiple staff and players fell ill upon their return to Orlando, beat PAN 5-1 (4-0 at the half).
    All in less than 72 hours.

    Different vague numbers of ill players were floated. However, like in other cases of football squads suffering food poisoning, not all players got sick.

    According to Arriola, the team became ill when they returned to the US.
    https://www.90min.com/posts/paul-arriola-usmnt-challenging-world-cup-qualifying-cycle
     
  18. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time-release conspiracy! The most dastardly kind.
     
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  19. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Imagine what USMNT could have done without that stomach bug :ROFLMAO:

    I still do not buy Columbus' excuse though. No specific details on how many became ill, nor which players.

    It might be the case that Pachuca did its homework, before hosting both Philadelphia and Columbus at high altitude.
     
  20. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I know this is a bad idea, but please forgive me...

    I've been watching this team quite a bit, and more importantly, I watched them closely when they beat Tigres and dismantled Rayados. You can't strategize your way to your opponent being markedly more lethargic and unwilling to press as easily as you make it seem. Everything was off. The lines of pressure were completely disconnected. There were mental mistakes and other mistakes that looked like fatigue mistakes LONG before altitude gets to a standard team. Not knowing what was going on at the time, it seemed massively out of character and almost impossible. I kept passing it off as altitude related, because they are the SORT of mistakes that happen when you're sucking air and not thinking right. It started about 30 minutes too early or more.
     
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  21. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Looks like the European teams might not play in the Club World Cup. Players are threatening to sue and now the first team has announced they will turn down the invitation.
     
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  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much do they get from UEFA for participating in the Champions League?

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soc...own-ucl-winners-uefa/6e9cd9ee671ddd07fc6507ff

    So for winning the CL Real Madrid got $21.5M.

    According to this:

    https://onefootball.com/en/news/202...money-and-what-milan-need-to-qualify-38539605

    Teams will get €50M just for showing up...... and somewhere in the neighborhood of €100M if they win the tourney.... That's a lot of money to help fight off FFP regulations....
     
  23. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Evidently Real Madrid later put out a statement saying they will play and look forward to it.
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes! Ancelloti doesn't run the club so its not really his call.

     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Real Madrid's triumph in Paris in 2022 saw the club earning a total of 133.7 million euros. Liverpool, the runners-up, took home 119.9 million euros. Semi-finalists Bayern Munich and Manchester City received 109.6 million euros and 108.7 million euros respectively." (Marca)

    That excludes little things like matchday revenue. They averaged around 60,000 at their temporary stadium.
     

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