2018 WC Russia: CONCACAF Opponents Watch [all R's]

Paul Calixte · Sep 2, 2016

Cirris said: ↑

US team is going to have to win Monday. No way around it.
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Here's hoping T&T agree to move the game up a day, or we're screwed

Suyuntuy said: ↑

That was a Costa Rica golazo.
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But hey, Haiti played waaaaaay better than the disaster we witnessed in the Copa América Centenario - bringing Charles Hérold Jr. back was key to making our attack more fluid. Still don't know what the coach has against Duckens Nazon (or if he was even good to play - there have been rumors that he has heart problems), but I think Haiti will have enough to overcome French Guiana and St. Kitts and Nevis next month to reach the Gold Cup.

bballshawn · Sep 2, 2016

lol

bill0 · Sep 2, 2016

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CANPRO · Sep 2, 2016

So it looks like 2022 will be the earliest I'll get to see Canada in a World Cup. Another 4 wasted years of trying to grow the game in this country.

At least I can't say I'm surprised. The draw in El Salvador against a B team was mind numbing.

Suyuntuy · Sep 2, 2016

Each group has a team already qualified: A = Mexico; B = Costa Rica; C = Trinidad and Tobago.

Burr · Sep 2, 2016

I'd be enjoying the scoreline a lot more if Mexico weren't already through. I guess it still has the potential to cause an uproar, though.

Suyuntuy · Sep 2, 2016

If Panama wins this one, this group is done. CRC #1 and PAN #2.

As for the group A, Mexico can afford lose the last two games --they already nailed top of the group. Due to goal diff, Honduras is very likely #2.

Our group, we've basically nailed #2 due to GD too.

lime · Sep 2, 2016

Trinidad & Tobago has only scored two goals against the US twice in its 22-game history (a 2-1 home win vs. a B-team and a 3-2 loss). The only time Guatemala scored ten goals in a match was in its first-ever international (a 10-1 victory). It would take results of completely historic standards to happen simultaneously for the US to not advance.

Burr · Sep 2, 2016

And the fun's already over.

Ironbound · Sep 2, 2016

I like Panama and still feel a little bad for last time. Glad they're going back to the Hex.

Cirris · Sep 2, 2016

OH Jamiaca...

bill0 · Sep 2, 2016

Suyuntuy said: ↑

If Panama wins this one, this group is done. CRC #1 and PAN #2.

As for the group A, Mexico can afford lose the last two games --they already nailed top of the group. Due to goal diff, Honduras is very likely #2.

Our group, we've basically nailed #2 due to GD too.
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If Panama beats Costa Rica by 2 or more goals they win the group.

Trini_Boi · Sep 2, 2016

I am still upset about how easy my team let this win slip away. Anyway we made it to the hex and hopefully we only improve going forward.

T&T let's do this!

Y tu mama tambien · Sep 3, 2016

bill0 said: ↑

If Panama beats Costa Rica by 2 or more goals they win the group.
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In Costa Rica.
I'm not seeing it.

Catracho_Azul · Sep 3, 2016

Y tu mama tambien said: ↑

In Costa Rica.
I'm not seeing it.
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Me neither, especially since it's a rivalry match.

Suyuntuy · Sep 3, 2016

bill0 said: ↑

If Panama beats Costa Rica by 2 or more goals they win the group.
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In Costa Rica? Not going to happen.

Dr. Gamera · Sep 3, 2016

I still believe in Canada. While Honduras has gotten a result in Azteca before, I'm not betting on them doing it again. Mexico could make up much or all of that five-goal margin by themselves, and Canada can certainly defeat El Salvador by a couple of goals.

As it is turning out, Trinidad and Tobago has replaced Jamaica from the last hex. Canada still has a shot to replace Honduras, and Guatemala has the very longest of longshots to replace the USA.

Trini_Boi · Sep 3, 2016

Watch the entire game between T&T vs Guatemala.

Catracho_Azul · Sep 3, 2016

Dr. Gamera said: ↑

I still believe in Canada. While Honduras has gotten a result in Azteca before, I'm not betting on them doing it again. Mexico could make up much or all of that five-goal margin by themselves, and Canada can certainly defeat El Salvador by a couple of goals.

As it is turning out, Trinidad and Tobago has replaced Jamaica from the last hex. Canada still has a shot to replace Honduras, and Guatemala has the very longest of longshots to replace the USA.
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I need to start sipping this kind of kool-aid.

Dr. Gamera · Sep 3, 2016

One way or another, something very interesting is going to happen in Group A. Either:

Honduras is going to win a meaningful match in the Azteca, always a very interesting occurrence. Or:

Honduras is going to draw a meaningful match in the Azteca, still interesting, and Honduras will become only the second-ever team in the six CONCACAF semifinal cycles under this format to advance with fewer than 10 points, joining 8-point Panama from the 2006 cycle. Or:

Honduras is going to lose and either Honduras or Canada will be the only team ever, out of all 36 teams that have advanced to the hex under this format, to do so with only 7 points.

Catracho_Azul · Sep 3, 2016

No, I meant the whole "I still believe in Canada" part. I think believe was a strong word.

lime · Sep 3, 2016

Dr. Gamera said: ↑

I still believe in Canada. While Honduras has gotten a result in Azteca before, I'm not betting on them doing it again. Mexico could make up much or all of that five-goal margin by themselves, and Canada can certainly defeat El Salvador by a couple of goals.

As it is turning out, Trinidad and Tobago has replaced Jamaica from the last hex. Canada still has a shot to replace Honduras, and Guatemala has the very longest of longshots to replace the USA.
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so far, Canada and Honduras have mostly matched GD by result

Canada beat Honduras by 1 at home (1-0)
Honduras beat Canada by 1 at home (2-1)

Canada drew El Salvador away (0-0)
Honduras drew El Salvador away (2-2)

Canada lost at home to Mexico by 3, while Honduras only lost at home by 1.

for Tuesday

Canada lost to Mexico away by 2
Honduras beat El Salvador at home by 2

if those results are mirrored on Tuesday (not an unreasonable pair of outcomes), that leaves you with

Honduras: 7 pts, -2 GD, 6 GF
Canada: 7 pts, -3 GD, 4 GF

making those both 3-0 (or either of them 4-0) isn't totally crazy. doubt it, but not beyond the real of possibility.

the 3rd goal Mexico got in Canada (scored 32nd, 40th, and 72nd) hurts. Take that away, and while Honduras has the tiebreaker if GD are equal (due to more goals overall), Canada could get through with +2 and +3.

FWIW Canada really blew this by not getting the win in El Salvador. that game, on that particular day, was there for the taking.

Suyuntuy · Sep 3, 2016

Mexico has some extra trouble when facing Honduras, we have some extra trouble when facing Costa Rica, and Canada has some extra trouble when facing the possibility of success.

A 0-0 vs. SLV wouldn't surprise me.

Rafael Hernandez · Sep 3, 2016

lime said: ↑

Canada lost at home to Mexico by 3, while Honduras only lost at home by 1.
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Mexico beat Honduras 2-0 in Honduras.

Dr. Gamera said: ↑

I still believe in Canada. While Honduras has gotten a result in Azteca before, I'm not betting on them doing it again. Mexico could make up much or all of that five-goal margin by themselves, and Canada can certainly defeat El Salvador by a couple of goals.

As it is turning out, Trinidad and Tobago has replaced Jamaica from the last hex. Canada still has a shot to replace Honduras, and Guatemala has the very longest of longshots to replace the USA.
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The only true A team forward, Raul Jimenez, got injured against El Salvador and will probably miss the Honduras game. That means Mexico will have to go with Angel Zaldivar (making his NT debut if that is so) and Angel Sepulveda (who did score yesterday but that was his debut). If not saying Mexico couldn't win but to say that they can make up that 5 goal margin is a huge stretch. I would think Canada will have to make the GD themselves to have a chance.

EDIT: Raul Jimenez is out for the Honduras game.

Catracho_Azul · Sep 3, 2016

I agree with Rafa, the situation at hand for both Honduras and Mexico, leads me to believe that it won't be a blow-out in Azteca. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely.