Poll - what would you do?

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  1. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    CP and McKennie went 120 minutes against Jamaica. Tyler Adams is working his way back from injury, Yunus will be on the Ramadan diet, though the match begins just after sundown.

    Which of these four do you start against Mexico if you were the manager?
     
  2. RossD

    RossD Member+

    Aug 17, 2013
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Only goal is to win the game. CP and McKennie are the top 2 starters. I'd also start Musah along with Johnny Football.
     
  3. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CP, McKennke, and Adams start.
     
  4. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I believe that as long as we have Gregg in charge who starts does not matter much at all.
    When you put players in positions to fail, which Gregg does a lot, we should not be surprised when they do what they are set up to do.
    While it is possible, in spite of being limited by the "plan," for players to excel. It is much harder for individuals to shine when they are limited by what the coach wants.
    So, yes I would start all our best players and play them until they get obviously tired. Even though we get production from our players from time to time the fact is that the USA national team almost always underperforms and this is particularly true when we play the nearly dead minnows like Jamaica or T&T. We have, generally less bad play against the CONCACAF "biggies" (If there was ever an oxymoron in soccer that is it) Mexico and Canada than we do against the rest of CONCACAF.
    I just want to watch and hope against hope that we do not play stupidly and/or embarrass ourselves.
     
  5. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    What I would do:

    1) Feed Musah a light meal and hydrate him just after sundown. Bring him on as a sub in the second half.

    2) Start Adams. Play him 60 or whatever his time limit is. He looked good against Jamaica.

    3) Start Reyna. I think he can go 90. He went 75 plus extra time against Jamaica.

    4) Start CP. Keep a close eye on how he's doing in the second half. But basically ride him as long as possible.

    5) Ditto for McKennie.
     
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  6. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can you ever participate in a thread without turning it into a bash Berhalter thread? Good grief.
     
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  7. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I would not "bash" Gregg if I thought that he was not 90-95% of the problem we have with scoring. He has made things too complicated and players have to think before acting rather than doing what their clubs and earlier training has taught them. But apparently Gregg likes slow plodding soccer so he must be good.
    Besides his decisions and choices are so stupidly bad that he makes an easy target.
     
  8. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    I 100% think you must prepare for extra time and PKs, rather than ‘start your best 11 and see what happens.’

    Pulisic is the only difficult one. I would leave him in reserve, let Aaronson burn some minutes, then bring Pulisic in for the entire second half (if trailing) or at 60’ (if even/ahead) to close things out (with a winning goal or successful PK). I think there is about 0% chance that CP doesn’t start - he would have to suggest it, as GB is incapable of doing so.

    Start Adams and sub him out at his time limit, ideally at halftime, then Johnny.

    I would go Musah, then sub in McKennie, but that’s another minority view, I’m sure.

    Not all criticism is bashing. I’ll criticize GB until someone new starts taking our corner kicks (or CP somehow improves greatly in that regard).
     
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  9. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Start the best, go for the early lead. Worry about managing minutes when 25 are left.
     
  10. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only reason to not start your best is if you have a player who you don't think can even go 45 minutes. Then I can see it.

    Otherwise you are taking a defeatist approach.
     
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  11. Kirium

    Kirium Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK
    100% agree
     
  12. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I wouldn’t object if he didn’t start either Tyler or CP, or if he limited both to 45 min. I trust Johnny. And while we struggle without CP, he has played a TON of minutes this year and in the last 72 hrs. Wes always seems indestructible to me. I don’t know much about the body and Ramadan fasting. But Yunus seemed off on Thursday.
     
  13. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    If you are only taking about being exhausted. We have a guy who has had to fight through injuries. Plus, we are playing a team that has no problem dishing out the nasty side of the game. And he has been a target of theirs for a long time. It would suck to see him not be able to finish a great year, definitely the best ever for a Yank in Italy.
     
  14. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GK Turner
    RB Dest
    CB Miles
    CB Richards
    LB Jedi (Scally)
    MF Adams (Johnny)
    MF McKennie
    RM Weah (Musah)
    AM Gio (Aaronson)
    LM Pulisic
    FW Wright (Pepi)
     
  15. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Valid perspective for sure. But if you are worried about Puli getting hacked and injured then you'd never play him against Mexico.

    Maybe the damn referees will do their freaking job.....for once.....
     
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  16. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This being CONCACAF I believe there is zero chance of that. Any ref that actually called fouls would quickly be relegated to U10 or so. We hold 10 year olds to higher standards than we do the so called adults playing soccer so they need better refs.
     
  17. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i start the starters other than adams. i have no problem with johnny for musah.

    there are no other big questions. puli starts, weah starts, dest starts, jedi starts, 2 of miles, richards and ream start, turner starts, balo starts (cause gregg).
     
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  18. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nobody cares. This is not a Berhalter thread, it's pretty specific. If you insist on going on and on with that crap please at least take it somewhere more relevant.
     
  19. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree. Think this is a pretty easy.

    I'd expect Wright and Pepi to be on in the 2nd half.
     
  20. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i think fitness may dictate the subs, more than usual anyways. wright for puli, tillman for reyna (possibly weah, though aaronsons more likely there). musah and johnny split one spot whoever starts.

    adams coming on at some point is likely, probably for wes.

    so i think we may not see tactical subs (pepi for balo, in particular). a defender needing to be replaced could throw a real wrench into things...but yeah, i think "we" are focusing a little too much on the wrong end of the game.

    its pretty remarkable that gregg finally makes moves before the 80th minute these days- thats a pretty big change. he rotates his starters even less.
     
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  21. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree 100%. Guess we'll see how right we are.
     
  22. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I hope we get a male ref.
     

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