johno

tired. all the damn time.

Newcastle 2-1 Spurs

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Girl... drop it to da floor...

yessir... sign me up, but I may have limited availability for a couple days. CPU issues.

Any interest in a "Greatest Goals in Manchester United History" project?

preciate it. Thanks

I think you've done some good work on here recently. Since I can't rep you, I'll say it here. Cheers.

okay, that seems fair

I would like it to be 5 points for each goal and stick with it (and integral points as well).

There is always going to be subjectivity involved in any system. As long as we have consistent rules (points are only given to players involved in one continuous move that led to the goal), we should be sweet.

In my opinion, going beyond goal scorer and 2nd assist would involve a lot of opinion and second guessing. I think perhaps maybe we could keep a separate stat, defensive assist. If the goal came via counter-attack, which player sparked it. It would be nice to see a tally of that at season's end. Not assign it a point total, but just track it. Also, maybe for goals that have a lot of involvement, say, more than 2 key passes we could give them a * and note that it was a team goal - perhaps credit the scorer w/ just 2pts and list team as the other 3?

Can see why you would want to avoid stuff that happens before a set-piece.

I do however don't see why you wouldn't go beyond the 2nd man. Not doing so makes it just an attempt to add the second assist to what we already track. Think the critical pass/steal in a multi-pass move deserves credit even if it was the first pass in a 23-pass move.

I think looking back till the start of the goalscoring move would mean everyone on the field has a chance to get points.

I don't want to give any points for stuff that happens before a set piece that leads to a goal.

I wouldn't change the 1st goal vs Fulham. We win tons of corners and do nothing with it. Berba's lay-off was pretty straight forward but it was as important as Valencia's pass imo.

Fulham 2 - no pts for contributions before the set piece.

vs Newcastle 1, so you are giving 6pts for that goal? I think that going too far back from the goal will only open up a can of worms. I mean, I'd give credit for defensive work if it is done before a pass that opens the play up, but I think anything more than 2 players removed from the goal is stretching things.

Newcastle2 - I agree to an extent. Rooney's touch changed the path of the ball, it is significant in some way. Maybe knock the goal down to 2pts with 3, 1pt 'assists' so to speak?

vsFulham 1

1st goal. Berba also won the corner leading to the goal? Inclined to give him an extra point for that but Scholes' goal was special so don't want to take it away from him. Maybe from Valencia?

vsFulham 2

Scholes to get a point for the ball to Nani and Nani to get a point each for the cross that led to the corner and a point for the cross that led to the goal?

vsNewcastle1
I am inclined to give Valencia a point as well for the steal. Rest agree with.

vsNewcastle2
Scholes is probably more deserving of a point than Rooney's mistouch.

vsNewcastle3
Agreed, easy :D


No community shield? :)

Send me over your breakdown and I will go over them.

not sure, I'd need to see a replay, but I'm about to head off to class

Only integral points?

Who played the ball over cole for Valencia's run to set up Hernandez?

I think so, maybe a new thread. One post per match with all the goals and the breakdown.

Time to start the thread up again?

You are right... amend my thoughts as you see best, give it a couple days/hours to die down and then have at it.

It is not a democracy. We decide and the rest have to accept it ;)

Starting a thread to discuss wasn't the brightest of ideas :D

sure... do you want to set it up? we probably need to have a discussion of some sort before we post a thread.

Goal = 3pts
Solo goal = 4pts
Assist = 1pt
Great assist =2pts
pass that makes the assist = 1pt

Oi, do you want to do the point thingy for each goal that we have been talking about the last two seasons?

I'm sorry man. I've been absolutely swamped. If you need to submit it, go ahead. However I promise I will look at it and have comments by this afternoon.