Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    C'mon Cam

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  2. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I clearly don't know anything about rugby. If I've watched more than 20 minutes in my adult lifetime, that would be a generous estimate.

    Here is Spiff Sedrick's try as time expires in the bronze medal game in Paris this past summer.

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    Several questions.

    Do announcers really call off yardage markers, like they do in football. "She's past the 50 yard line, the 40..."

    She just barely crossed the line on her try. If she had stumbled and hit the deck before the line, but then slid across the line, would it still have counted.

    And that conversion at the end. Is that normal? Is it a sevens thing or a women's thing? But pooching the ball standing 10 yards away, no one in front of you? Is it just me or is that the lamest conversion in any sport?
     
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  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was such a fun try.

    Can't answer all the questions but...
    If you listen to the male announcer doing the US female games, he tailors it to a US audience. Earlier in the competition, he would say something like, "Spiff Sedrick, Salt Lake City, Utah; Paris, France." I have never heard the "She's past the 50 yard line, the 40..." part before, but I'm not a regular watcher.
    For the try, itself, she landed where she planned. The ball has to touch down in the end zone to get the try (and the trailing defender would have trying to knock the ball free if caught in time). Thus, she dove the last meter or two to make sure she touched the ball down. It's pretty common. Not sure about the stumble part, though I think it still would have counted as long as she touched the ball down without being stopped.
    The conversion kick is done where the try is scored. If the try is to the side, that is where the kick would be taken. Thus, Sedrick intentionally went between the posts.
    Sevens is the version played in the Olympics. It's played elsewhere, and some of the other more knowledgeable will explain it more (and possibly confuse you).

    That try gets all the attention, but if you watch match highlights, Sedrick makes a great tackle which led to a poor pass which prevented an Australian try. It ultimately caused the match to be within reach at the end.

    The tackle is at the 3:25 mark.
     
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  4. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    1) I pretty much only watch regular rugby where a full field run is borderline impossible. So there is almost neve4 an opportunity for them to do so.

    2) yes, it still counts unless, for example, she loses control of the ball and her body pushes it over the line, then it’s a penalty called a knock on, resulting in a scrum controlled by the other team.

    3) the location of the conversion is straight back on the field from where the ball was touched down for the try. So if you score right underneath the goal posts, you get an unmissable chip shot. If you score close the sideline, you have a much harder conversion. Though back in my day, I was pretty damn good at converting them from there, thanks to having played soccer
     
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  5. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Here is an insane rugby kick, 70 plus yards, no tee. Blasted it through.

     
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  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "No tee" means no plastic tee. Even I know they used sand back in those days.
     
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  7. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s been a long time since I can say I enjoyed or even paid attention to a USMNT January camp friendly, but that one was pretty fun, and not just because of the result. Looked like a hungry bunch of guys with a decent skill level, and their opponent actually took it moderately seriously.

    I vaguely remember attempting to watch last year’s version and turning it off out of boredom or bleeding eyes.
     
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  8. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    In the longer clip he makes a divot with his heel and puts the ball in that.
     
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  9. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    You're right...I only caught the last 15 min and was impressed. I don't recall thinking that since '02. :coffee:
     
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  10. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I missed the USMNT game. Anybody have thoughts about Diego Luna or Emeka Eneli who came in?
     
  11. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah, okay. Looked like it was on a "tee" of sand.
     
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  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    No. But Jack McGlynns 1st goal was a cracker

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  13. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Not much I can add, which disappoints as a rugby guy. But you want to see a great full field try, search youtube for l'ssai de fin de monde aka the try from the end of the world
     
  14. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luna looked a cut above most of them, and better than the guy he replaced (despite his solid goal). Can’t remember Eneli really, he’s one I wasn’t familiar with beforehand.
     
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  15. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
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    Found it, when they pan away you can see him kicking the turf with his heel. Maybe someone out sight put some sand down too?

     
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  16. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    I checked with my rugby guys. Thorburn made that with no sand. That's impressive.
     
  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    He was a legend

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