Was Maradona Overrated

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Lincon18762, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I disagree about Cristiano. All his teammates talk about his professionalism and work ethic. How he is the first to arrive and last to leave. How he even changed the eating habits of everyone. He leads by example although he is also a vocal leader.
     
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  2. Praasen

    Praasen Member

    Mohun bagan
    Argentina
    Jan 8, 2023
    Higuain disagrees
     
  3. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #828 carlito86, Jan 12, 2025 at 8:42 AM
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2025 at 8:52 AM
    Lionel Messi in La liga
    2018/19
    2019/20
    2020/21

    71 non penalty goals
    47 assists
    235 team goals
    50% direct involvement

    Lionel Messi - Detailed stats (Detailed view) | Transfermarkt





    Diego Maradona entire Serie A career
    51 non penalty goals
    50 assists
    278 team goals
    36% direct involvement

    Diego Maradona - Detailed stats (Detailed view) | Transfermarkt




    Lionel Messi in the 2018/19 CL
    12 non penalty/non handball goals




    Diego Maradona
    Entire World Cup career
    Entire Copa America career
    Entire European Cup career
    Entire UEFA Cup career
    Entire copa libertadores career
    12 non penalty/non handball goals
     
  4. Agility

    Agility Member

    Jan 17, 2019
    Cristiano is No Leader whatsoever.
     
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  5. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil






     
  6. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
  7. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Conveniently forgetting the atrocities that the Imperial Japanese Army committed on civilians of China, Korea, Malaysia, the Phillippines, civilians from Europe & India. The atrocities are on a par & in some cases even worse than those committed by the SS.

    Dropping two nuclear weapons saved more lives given the IJA were determined everyone should die in the defence of the Home Islands.

    They were Fascists in every sense of the word if you knew anything about history which you obviously do not. They saw themselves as a master race who would lord it over the rest of Asia & it still has adherents in Japan in groups like the Nippon Kaigi who also believe Japan did not do anything wrong during their armed conflicts from Manchuria onwards.
     
  8. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #833 carlito86, Jan 15, 2025 at 12:45 PM
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2025 at 1:11 PM
    I retired from giving any political opinions here(this is a football forum and let’s keep it that way)
    Don’t believe for one second that I don’t have a response for this but I choose not to

    suffice to say I don’t condone nor justify the deaths of any civilians
    The ones at nanking nor the ones at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
    The ones in auschwitz nor the ones in Dresden
    The ones on October 7th nor the ones in Gaza
    They are all the same to me and the ends never justify the means.
    I don’t believe in the concept of the ‘lesser evil’
    Evil is evil or it isn’t at all

    I find that many of the ones who attempt to justify the deaths of civilians sitting in the comforts of their homes are the same ones who would go missing in action if they were enlisted to fight on the frontline of a war.
    It’s easy to talk about ‘justifiable’ deaths sitting behind a computer screen when it isn’t your own life at stake nor the lives of your loved ones.

    Now
    back on topic if you want
    The topic being why Diego Maradona is the most overrated all time great footballer and not why he was a crackhead woman beater(irrelevant as far as this football forum is concerned)
     
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  9. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Calendar Year Stats
    Maradona 1985 to 1988
    Messi 2010 to 2012
    C.Ronaldo 2010 to 2012

    Pre-Assists (D): Strict Opta Criteria, Direct pass→Direct pass→Goal
    Pre-Assists (I): Indirect or Non-Opta, like deflected passes, gk rebounds, etc

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Calendar Year Stats
    Maradona 1984 to 1990
    Messi 2010 to 2014
    C.Ronaldo 2010 to 2014

    Pre-Assists (D): Strict Opta Criteria, Direct pass→Direct pass→Goal
    Pre-Assists (I): Indirect or Non-Opta, like deflected passes, gk rebounds, etc

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    A pibe with a dirty face, a mane of hair rebelling against the comb; with intelligent, roving, trickster and persuasive eyes and a sparkling gaze that seem to hint at a picaresque laugh that does not quite manage to form on his mouth, full of small teeth that might be worn down through eating yesterday’s bread. His trousers are a few roughly sewn patches; his vest with Argentinian stripes, with a very low neck and with many holes eaten out by the invisible mice of use. A strip of material tied to his waist and crossing over his chest like a sash serves as braces. His knees covered with the scabs of wounds disinfected by fate; barefoot or with shoes whose holes in the toes suggest they have been made through too much shooting. His stance must be characteristic; it must seem as if he is dribbling with a rag ball. That is important: the ball cannot be any other. A rag ball and preferably bound by an old sock. If this monument is raised one day, there will be many of us who will take off our hat to it, as we do in church.
     
  12. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Is this copy and pasted from the Iglesia Maradoniana bible?
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/nov/12/diego-maradona-argentina
     
  13. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Calendar Year Stats
    Maradona 1982 to 1990
    Messi 2010 to 2015
    C.Ronaldo 2010 to 2015
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Diego Maradona for Napoli
    Games: 257
    Goals: 115
    Assists: 75
    Non-Opta: 25
    Pre-Assists Opta: 35
    Pre-Assists Non-Opta: 16
    Team Contribution 266/388: 68.56%
    Clutch Contribution 162/233: 69.53%
    [​IMG]


    Lionel Messi for Barcelona

    Games: 778
    Goals: 672
    Assists: 269
    Non-Opta: 83
    Pre-Assists Opta: 129
    Pre-Assists Non-Opta: 46
    Team Contribution 1199/1801: 66.57%
    Clutch Contribution 537/813: 66.05%
    [​IMG]


    Cristiano Ronaldo for Real Madrid

    Games: 438
    Goals: 450
    Assists: 120
    Non-Opta: 28
    Pre-Assists Opta: 61
    Pre-Assists Non-Opta: 12
    Team Contribution 671/1128: 59.49%

    Clutch Contribution 293/522: 56.13%
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    Good man this
     

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