NCAA Tournament Selection

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  1. gauchodan

    gauchodan Member+

    Oct 18, 2016
    SIUE (62) at Western Michigan (30), winner to #1 Ohio State (1)
    UC Santa Barbara (38) at UCLA (39), winner to #16 Stanford (11)
    Bucknell (112) at Providence (18), winner to #9 Clemson (12)
    LIU (110) at Maryland (27), winner to #8 Wake Forest (9)
    Robert Morris (96) at Michigan (31), winner to #5 Dayton (6)
    Seattle (52) at Washington (28), winner to #12 SMU (15)
    Furman (63) at North Carolina (22), winner to #13 Marshall (8)
    Charlotte (26) at NC State (36), winner to #4 Georgetown (3)
    Gardner-Webb (51) at Oregon State (32), winner to #3 Denver (2)
    Princeton (17) at Akron (34), winner to #14 Indiana (21)
    North Florida (152) at West Virginia (16), winner to #11 Virginia (14)
    Evansville (49) at UMass (23), winner to #6 Penn (7)
    Iona (85) at Vermont (19), winner to #7 Hofstra (5)
    UC Davis (54) at San Diego (20), winner to #10 Duke (10)
    Kansas City (24) at Saint Louis (37), winner to #15 Missouri State (13)
    Fordham (29) at Cornell (25), winner to #2 Pittsburgh (4)
     
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  2. gauchodan

    gauchodan Member+

    Oct 18, 2016
    #2 gauchodan, Nov 18, 2024 at 1:27 PM
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2024 at 1:39 PM
    UCLA gets in from below the cut line. UNCG misses out with an RPI of 35. Indiana gets a top 16 seed with an RPI of 20+ for the 3rd time in 12 years. West Virginia wins the Sun Belt regular season and tournament championship and does not get a top 16 seed.
     
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  3. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    WVU would play #11 Virginia if they advance out of the first round. They could conceivably meet IU in the quarters.
     
  4. gauchodan

    gauchodan Member+

    Oct 18, 2016
    Thanks...I amended it.
     
  5. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    I know that proximity is a determinant, but it's interesting that IU's 14th seed, deserved or not, gets them either Princeton (17 rpi) or Akron (34 rpi). Meanwhile, #16 Stanford gets either UCLA (39) or UCSB (38). #15 Miss St gets either SLU (37) or KC (24). Regardless, I'm not complaining.
     
  6. gauchodan

    gauchodan Member+

    Oct 18, 2016
    Indiana has used up its quota of beneficial seeding!

    The NCAA does try to keep early round matchups in region, which leads to a UCSB-UCLA rematch in Westwood. I would argue UCSB had the better team sheet this season and should have hosted that game. They even have a bigger facility, they have hosted the College Cup twice and they have an engaged fan base.

    At some point the NCAA runs out of ability to keep matches in region. Consider Gardner-Webb traveling to Oregon State and the UC Davis-USD winner going to Duke.
     
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  7. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    Agreed. We've been very lucky. Of course, last year the unseeded Hoosiers lost in PKs to eventual runner-up Notre Dame in the quarters at ND.
     
  8. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aforementioned quota is higher when the back of your jersey is full of stars.
     
  9. SBZipfan

    SBZipfan Member

    Nov 19, 2014
    Santa Barbara, CA
    How does Princeton (RPI #17 with an away victory over #7 Penn in the Ivy final) have to travel to Akron (RPI #34 with a neutral field loss to #3 GT in the BE semi)?
     
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  10. UNCG2004

    UNCG2004 Member

    Leeds United
    United States
    Nov 20, 2019
    What are the biggest snubs and head scratchers from this field?
     
  11. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    West Virginia won Sun Belt regular season and Sun Belt Tournament. Fact check me on that.
    If so, Mountaineers should be upset.
     
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  12. VASoccer75

    VASoccer75 Member

    Oct 28, 2015
    Thats correct but looking at their schedule on Dans website, they're 0-1-4 against Q1 and Q2. I think with winning both the regular season and tournament and only have 1 loss, they should be a seeded team but i'm guessing thats what went into the decision.

    For me, Gardner-webb to Oregon State is a head scratcher but not enough teams in the east to go around. I would argue that Furman should've gone west since GWU finished with a higher RPI and better record, but I don't get a vote.

    UCLA looks to have taken UNCGs spot - but in my opinion strength of schedule is what did UNCG in on that.

    Again, all assumptions but just looking at the data, those are the ones for me that are questionable
     
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  13. soccerinOHIO

    soccerinOHIO New Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 25, 2024
    Stanford.....got a gift with that matchup....they should be playing someone like West Virginia or someone else...that just missed a top 16 seed.
     
  14. soccerinOHIO

    soccerinOHIO New Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 25, 2024
    Charlotte and Kansas City both have RPI's in the 20's....and are having to go on the road and play teams with RPI's in the 30's.

    Kansas City just knocked off the #3 overall tournament seed. They should be hosting the game against St. Louis.

    I know that the NCAA is so bureaucratic. Did Some Athletic department employee at Kansas city, Charlotte and Princeton screw up an application to host a home game ?

    some of those teams were in the 40's for RPI a few weeks ago....did they think that they had no chance to host?

    something fishy here
     
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  15. collegesoccer

    collegesoccer Member+

    Apr 11, 2005
    Only thing I can think of is they didn't put in to host.... but yeah that doesn't make much sense. You'd be surprised how unless this is a regular thing with new admins it gets overlooked.
     
  16. Preserved Killick

    Preserved Killick New Member

    Corinthian Casuals
    United States
    Sep 9, 2019
    UCLA did beat the #1 in the RPI and tied #2. But agree with you about the engaged fan base.
     
  17. RusskyHoya

    RusskyHoya Member

    DC United
    United States
    Dec 15, 2019
    Princeton hosted a women's NCAA tournament game last year, I'm sure they know how the process works.
     

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