Dual nationals who could suit up for the US.

Obviously we want as many good prospects as possible in our pool.

But also he’s got very little Bundesliga experience, a bit early to accurately assess how good he is to some of the alternatives at the position. And it may turn out his significantly better but there doesn’t need to be a rush to cap a player after two games.

 

If he keeps up his performance for Frankfurt, Poch and the US staff need to have another conversation with him for March camp. Germany have Mittelstaedt, Gosens, Raum, Rothe, Netz and others at LB.

Not saying to promise him something but for any new uncapped players, the Gold Cup is probably the last major window for someone new to make their case for a potential opportunity for 2026 World Cup.

 

Explain this?

He played in u21 qualifiers & it doesn’t matter what age group
If he’s 21 & plays an official game for any category
He’s cap tied pic.twitter.com/4Lsbau1C0R

— Edgar Moreno (@ConcacafEdgar) November 13, 2024

 

Exactly.

The confusion comes because of a recent FIFA ruling. A player who had a senior NT appearance in a competitive match (e.g., a WC qualifier), had appeared in a youth match after turning 21. That appearance meant the one-time switch was no longer available.

Any example given, I can guarantee, has a senior competitive cap in his match list. Never appear in a senior competitive match and you will always have an old school one-time switch available.

The FIFA rules changes are designed to make it easier to switch, not the other way round.

 

Nope. Munir is the example of it
Only players who played u21 in official matches after turning 21 get a waiver if the matches were before September 2020 like munir pic.twitter.com/8pfYoNCvHt

— Edgar Moreno (@ConcacafEdgar) November 13, 2024

so is he just lying or something?

 

Munir was fielded in a Euro 2016 qualifier match for Spain. For these players, they have to wait three years without caps to switch.

 

So Brown is not eligible then..
Until 3 years

 

Brown unlike Munir was never fielded for the Senior team. The first eligibility criteria excludes “A” international level (Senior team).

He eligible but if he appears in a senior match for Germany, he will be tied.

 

No.

Under the rules implemented in 2020, you can switch if you were fielded for your *senior* NT in a competitive match that isn't cap-tying (usually meaning a qualifier, not the finals of a tourney). This applies if you were under 21 when the match happened and didn't play in more than 2 more matches for your NT. You then have to wait 3 years to make your switch and you can't play for any YNT or NT in the interim.

But if you only play competitive *youth* matches and never appear in any competitive matches for your senior NT, you can file a one-time switch at any time and be eligible as soon as the request is approved.

The old one-time switch rules still apply for those who are only provisionally cap-tied in youth matches. The 2020 change gives an extra opportunity for players who make a small number of senior competitive appearances before turning 21 to switch, but they have to wait 3 years.

Brown could switch tomorrow if he wishes.

 

Munir is a weird case to pick because this happened before the rules changes in 2020. CAS approved his switch from Spain to Morocco in 2021 because he was covered by the new rules.

He made an appearance for Spain senior NT in 2014 when he was 19. It was a Euros qualifier, which was permanently cap-tying under the rules of that time. He continued to play for other Spain youth teams in competitive matches, including after he turned 21.

But CAS said he was free to switch as these occurred before the rule was in place.

I think Edgar has gotten himself confused with the other cases that recently came to light. It's easy to get focused on one part of the process while missing other elements (like the lack of an appearance in a competitive senior match).

 

I asked because I don’t know the rules.
Edgar has been saying that to many agents and just want to make sure if he was right. But now I’m confused.
What new case come to light?

 

Of course, plenty of journalists also don't understand the eligibility rules (saying that any change of allegiance from one federation to another is a "one-time switch" or not knowing how cap-tying works), so it's understandable that there's some misinformation floating around out there.

One case that was lumped into the changes was that of Mile Svilar, who was provisionally cap-tied to Belgium, filed a one-time switch to Serbia and appeared in a senior friendly for them. He then claimed he wanted to switch back to Belgium, but it was too late. His appearance meant he couldn't return to Belgium. He did play a competitive U21 match for Belgium after turning 21 in 2020, before the switch. He was still allowed to file the one-time switch to Serbia, even though he was 21 (he never appeared for the Belgian senior NT). His case was more about the one-time switch than the "over 21 issue."

I don't think the Emilio Nsue case falls into this category as it's really more about basic eligibility and failing to file a one-time switch: https://www.thestar.com/sports/socc...cle_a7858689-3a73-5b21-9582-e86a69b553bb.html

There are some other cases, but I can't find them right now.

I'm confident that Edgar has conflated the different types of cap-ties, but this is a complicated topic and hard to get straight answers without a lot of study. It's easiest just to assume that Brown is eligible to switch to the US and get disappointed down the road if that's not the case.

 

I will trust this answer more because you are not the only person who told me the same answer. Time will tell if this answer is right, but if it is, Edagr is saying misinformation.

 

Do the Olympics count? I’ve seen it said that Jack McGlynn is cap tied now.

 

The Olympics for men are still a youth competition. McGlynn is provisionally cap tied, like any other youth player.

 

Wait. Is McGlynn potentially eligible for another country?

 

eligible for Ireland. Might do a Esmir and switch if he sees more opportunities.

 

Yes Ireland

 

If he really wants to play international games, he might be better served going with Ireland. It’s tough to get into the US midfield.

 

if Ireland somehow finds a way to qualify for the 2026 World Cup, he will be gone.

 

I get that this is not your intention, but that type of approach borders on predatory capping. They should call him up if they see a viable path to contributing to the senior team in the not-too-distant future, not merely to secure him now. Our left back situation is poor enough that a handful of quality games in the Bundesliga is enough to merit a call up, but he only has 258 senior minutes for EF, and just 184 in the Bundesliga. If he keeps this up through the winter, then a call-in would definitely be merited. And he would likely be in a decision where he needed to decide between waiting on Germany for what could be a long time (or possibly not), and going for what could very realistically be a spot in the next U.S. World Cup squad.

 

My advice: stop taking what Edgar says as Bible. He’s been more wrong than he wants to admit.

 

I agree, but I struggled to think of anything he got wrong that isn't transfers. Maybe Marsch to the USMNT.
If he was as wrong as we think why are soccer agents DM him asking questions?

 

Your point is understandable but I would not call it predatory due to the fact that, based on club resume alone, if Brown locks down a starting spot for Frankfurt and does well, he certainly should leap Bello, Lund, probably Tolkin, and I’d only say Wiley would match him as far as club resume goes. We’re still in pursuit of the back up left back and left back for the future… It would only be predatory in my eyes if we lied to him and said he has the spot no matter what. But he might have a claim for that back up spot right now… or at least sooner than later.