CONCACAF Nations League

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  1. ptref

    ptref Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Aug 5, 2015
    Bowling Green, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wanted to start a thread for the US- Jamaica game.

    Good penalty decision against Turner.

    Thought that Ream would get a yellow for the challenge at midfield early on. Advantage played, but no card.
     
  2. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very easy penalty call against Turner. Referee was also in really good position to see it, so no one could really argue against it.

    But this field - yikes. I get why Jamaica set the field up as they did, but it sure doesn't make for fluid, entertaining soccer. I hope the field in St. Louis is glass-like slick on Monday to compensate.
     
  3. ptref

    ptref Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Aug 5, 2015
    Bowling Green, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    McKennie gets a deserved yellow for pulling the shorts, but nothing for the Jamaican player when he grabs Pulisic by the arm stopping an attack. Got to love CONCACAF referees.
     
  4. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will never understand what logic is used when allowing Christian Pulisic to be kicked all over the field. Objectively speaking, have any Mexico players ever been allowed to be kicked like Pulisic? Maybe it's happened, but I don't really remember any El Tri player being handled like Pulisic gets handled by Concacaf officials.
     
  5. ptref

    ptref Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Aug 5, 2015
    Bowling Green, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good second yellow against the Jamaican player late in the game. Clear SPA. No argument from the Jamaican team.
    I feel like this referee has done pretty well. Still letting get Pulisic get beat up, but overall not bad.
     
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  6. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we just operate under the assumption that Pulisic will be kicked with relative impunity, I thought Calderon did well. Kept a pretty good lid on things. Felt like he handled the mass cons well (but of course, he wouldn't have had to deal with mass cons if he properly dealt with Pulisic getting kicked). Got the penalty spot on.

    I've seen a LOT worse over the years in CONCACAF matches, particularly during USMNT matches on the road.
     
  7. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Did anybody else think that the YC for the foul on Tessman in '76 should have been a straight red? Looked like spikes to the thigh.....
     
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  8. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Arsenal
    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant to post this but yes, I agree
     
  9. Twotone Jones

    Twotone Jones Member

    United States
    Apr 12, 2023
    No thoughts on the potential penalty when Ream hit the ball with a chicken wing on that corner kick in the 2nd half? VAR didn't send it down and seemed to clear it pretty quickly. There weren't any good replays shown on the broadcast though.
     
  10. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Arm was close to the body, reaction time was minimal, unclear where exactly in the upper arm/shoulder area the ball hit.....no way that is being given, either on the field or via VAR.
     
  11. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I personally never liked that red area / green area handling diagram. I felt, especially from the side, the green area allows for quite a bit of arm allowing for acts that just don't feel right for the game. Though, it is what it is at this point.
     
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  12. ptref

    ptref Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Aug 5, 2015
    Bowling Green, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haven’t been able to find referee assignments for this quarterfinal round. I’m sure there are American refs working, just wondering when and where.
     
  13. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All I can find at the moment:

    Mexico – Honduras
    Referee: Drew Fischer CAN
    Assistant Referee 1: Michael Barwegen CAN
    Assistant Referee 2: Lyes Arfa CAN
     
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  14. Twotone Jones

    Twotone Jones Member

    United States
    Apr 12, 2023
    ESPN has a Mary Penso listed as the ref for St. Kitts v. Cuba last Thursday
     
  15. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was a play-in match. It's a bit convoluted but it's more or less about Gold Cup prelim qualifications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024–25_CONCACAF_Nations_League_Play-in

    For what it's worth, Wikipedia seems to have all the referee assignments correct after-the-fact. League A is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024–25_CONCACAF_Nations_League_Play-in

    It's four expected names with Fischer also named ahead of time for Tuesday. I would suspect some combination of Barton-Escobar for two of the other three. If that does end up being the case, it means either the US or Mexico would be shut out here (with Penso having a play-in, Elfath injured, and PRO not likely wanting to risk Villarreal if it can be avoided, I tend to think you won't see an American crew but I could be wrong).

    League B is, thus far (Matchday 5), eight names I've literally never heard of. I went through and watched some highlights and there was some fun/bizarre stuff. Regardless, CONCACAF is experimenting right now at this level with a few of the guys being used in League B not even being FIFAs yet.
     
  16. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Real first name reveal?
     
  17. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Greater Pittsburgh
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think her full name is a big secret lol.

    Árbitro Internacional tends to use full names, and I think Nick Uranga is another one on the current panel who goes by a middle name fwiw.
     
  18. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Maybe not to you. Probably to 90% of this forum including me.
     
  19. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Yeah, lots of League B and C referees who I’ve never heard of either. That’s always true to some extent, but I agree it seems like Concacaf is casting a wide net. Especially since non-FIFAs are included.

    As for the fun/bizarre highlights, which games in particular do you recommend I look at?
     

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