PBP: Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump :: Election Day Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Elections' started by Knave, Nov 5, 2024 at 12:45 AM.

  1. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    If Trump does half the stuff he says he will (and with Trump who knows) it certainly will be painful for most. I don't know who will be be main beneficiary of Trump's largess - there are a number of conflicting groups hungry for the power Turmp has. But it won't be the little people. All the groups around Trump (fascist ideologues, the religious, economic revanchists, and the criminal financial class) don't want to give anything - they only want to take.
     
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  2. Tribune

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    Jun 18, 2006
    No. Americans are willing to trade their democracy over the price of eggs (and some obsessions about Venezuelan gangs). It is that simple.
     
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  3. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Price of eggs are going up under Trump
     
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  4. Rossonero23

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    Trump takes Nevada.

    Kamala, a total fraud and train wreck. But Springsteen supports her and Whoopi goldberg!
     
  5. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

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    The chickens love Donald. We have the best chickens in the world.
     
  6. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

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    #981 Belgian guy, Nov 6, 2024 at 4:15 AM
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    So how exactly is Trump going to deport them? A large scale return to countries of origin would require a massive diplomatic effort, one that the Trump admin has neither the inclination nor the nous for. So this will turn into a situation where x amount of people are stuck in camps indefinitely.
     
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  7. Belgian guy

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    The funny :cautious: thing about that is that the two key Nevada voter issues according to exit polls were the economy and democracy. And then Trump won the state. The American electorate is wholly divorced from reality.
     
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  8. Knave

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    I thought I saw some evidence earlier today that the "democracy" issue was actually driving the pro-Trump vote. In other words, that "democracy" issue might not be what you think it is. The analysis will be interesting.
     
  9. Tribune

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    Jun 18, 2006
    Well, yeah, they will. But Trump promised he will make it a paradise for the "real Americans" and the Americans bought it hook, line and sinker. Because, hey, everyone thinks HE/SHE is a real American.
     
  10. Belgian guy

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    I'm guessing it then needs to be interpreted as an expression of the lie (peddled by Apartheid Clyde among others) that if the Dems won this would be the final true and fair election.

    Hence once again, utterly divorced from reality.
     
  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Mate I hope you get what you voted for so ********ing hard
     
  12. Belgian guy

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    Well unfortunately in the short term, it's going to be religious minorities and the LGBTQ+ community that will suffer the most. I do think that even most avid Trump supporters will eventually come to regret this, though it might take longer. Their background might shield them - for a while at least - from the most nefarious effects of American style White supremacist authoritarianism.
     
  13. ceezmad

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    The "I told you so" moment is not going to happen.
     
  14. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Yes it will. Trump's tariffs will cause prices of goods to rise and his anti-foreign rhetoric will deter investors and workers and cause the price of labor to rise. And if he doesn't carry out these plans then we can say he was scared by the repercussions.

    Just because these idiots won't listen to the "I told you so" doesn't mean it won't happen.
     
  15. Naughtius Maximus

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  16. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Enjoy the jump in the stock market while it lasts. If Trump does even half of what he claims he'll do he is going to crash the economy. But I think that is by design. That will make his authoritarian takeover much easier.
     
  17. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Thank God we have a 2nd Amendment.
     
  18. ElNaranja

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    Well...a new day and I'll keep helping people. That federal grant I was hoping to get in a couple years is gone almost for sure which means my job is gone which means....job hunting with a bunch of similarly placed people also being laid off.

    I'll be seeing y'all in the camps.
     
  19. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

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    Rampant authoritarianism is eventually going to affect everyone's lives and no amount of denial is going to change that.

    Lets look at the illiberal paradise created by one Viktor Orbán.
    Based on a recent survey, only 43 percent of people between the ages of 16 and 24 can imagine a future in Hungary over the next 10 years.
    That's the reality of being governed by people with zero respect for rules, laws and standards and 100% governed by pure self-interest.

    Now if you want to argue that those people are never going to admit that their decline in quality of life can be linked to their Trump vote, then yes, but that is more of the same delusion. Not the fact that they will not feel a material difference to their lives.
     

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