Goal contribution of the best players

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Trachta10, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    But they need to be careful!

     
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  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    ...
    The footballer artist's place is in the Sistine Chapel .. beside to Michelangelo ... Da Vinci ... Van Gogh .... Rembrandt ...


    hahahahaha not in the football field war " competition "
     
  3. PDG1978

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    Let's find a happy middle ground between us mate that we can agree on - football not war (which is horrible - football is at it's best competitive entertainment and nobody gets killed!), but the best football is competitive with both teams aiming to score goals!

    Kopa was somewhat an artist to be fair, but I agree his assists in the 1958 were also direct and effective (not just for show).
     
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  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
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    Feb 3, 2024

    yes ... Chilavert ... was my Idol ...too !


    i saw one game live .. in the stadium .... Final da Copa Libertadores ... against São Paulo


    he was incredible ... stronger personality ... leadership ... composure ...great Attitude

    Concentration... Bravery ...








    i was in the stadium onthis day there !
     
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  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
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    Feb 3, 2024

    ..... honestly ... gives too much Fear to go to the Stadium in the Final game Why ??


    sometimes .. the public .. having 100. 000 thousand people ... or 120 .000 thousand people ..



    honestly ... i was at .. 12 years old !

    was too much people into the stadium there ..


    What a Magical Performance by Chilavert ...!
     
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
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    Feb 3, 2024


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  7. Trachta10

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    A short documentary about József Bozsik, it's the only video related to a football player that I found in the archive

    https://nemzetiarchivum.hu/m3/open?id=M3-Q2RQVGlIRjl0WUdHTnFOMmtoZWtYVFhqMjV4c00xUE9UdDhYdVBRNWUyZz0
     
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  8. PDG1978

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  9. Trachta10

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    Throughball Assists per90 In Whoscored database

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    Through Ball: A pass splitting the defence for a team mate to run on to
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  10. Trachta10

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    Out of Box goals Per90 In Whoscored database

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  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    ...Let's find a happy middle ground between us mate that we can agree on - football not war (which is horrible - football is at it's best competitive entertainment and nobody gets killed!), but the best football is competitive with both teams aiming to score goals!









    middle ground between us mate that we can agree on


    is the Diego Armando Maradona .or Johan Cruyff ... or Michel Platini .. ! for sure !...


    hahahaha !

    Out from this ... is harder sometimes hahahaha !


    Mais ces't La vie .. Mon Ami !
     
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


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  13. PDG1978

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    #3013 PDG1978, Sep 29, 2024 at 5:56 AM
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2024 at 6:01 AM
    Your comment reminded me of this song!

    Maybe in some ways this can be better for the ('C'est La Vie') sentiments though I guess for example:


    I think football benefits from all the different players and different teams, to make it a great sport, but maybe for one player to represent a mix between going directly for the goal and doing it in a creative way it could be Pele (it was him who named it the Beautuful Game I think wasn't it, and for sure he had great inventive ways of deceiving defenders and scoring goals, solo or in combination with team-mates). But yeah, Kopa in WC 1958 (or especially Kopa in combination with Fontaine) can be a good example too. I guess he didn't assist at such a high rate during his career overall (and at Real Madrid he played as predominantly a right winger didn't he, so that limited his sphere of influence and impact compared to in his WC 1958 role), but along with the likes of Cruyff 74 and Maradona 86 (Pele in 1970 perhaps too) it's probably fair to bracket Kopa (mainly for 1958) in a group of the great World Cup creators (he did score a nice goal using his knee for example too, which has a mix of style and effectiveness also, but his stand out qualities were more on the creative side than the scoring side obviously).
     
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  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
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    Feb 3, 2024


    ....... the first Song ... is funny at all hahahaha !

    ... Nice Girls.. !


    .. well ...











    Isaque Argolo ..says :


    he talks about Ronaldinho..the way that I see him too...

    Sadly, you don't completely understand the Portuguese language...truly



    ....
    he says he is much more impressed by the tricks and skill of
    Eulogio Martinez right winger playmaker ...

    against Wolves vs Barcelona..

    than with Ronaldinho in general.


     
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    do you like the first Song really mate hahahahahaha ???
     

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