Women's League in Italy

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  1. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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  2. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
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    Feb 24, 2020
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  3. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    Now, you'll have to hope that Milan AC will do way better than in the last pair of seasons. :sneaky:

    In other news, it looks like Juventus' strategy of claiming back their young talents who were on loan to other clubs goes on: after Chiara Beccari from Sassuolo, 19 yo Eva Schatzer comes back from the loan to Sampdoria and signs a contract until 2027. :coffee:
     
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  4. dravde

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    Atalanta
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    Mar 19, 2024
    #2504 dravde, Jun 19, 2024
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    Hmm, Juve seems to go for a new strategy in betting on young players and italian youngsters particularly, or maybe it's just downsizing. Two or three seasons ago they had a much wider troop than Roma now it's the complete opposite. Still Juve got a lot of very strong players, so will be interesting to see how they do next season, I can imagine Echegeni being the MVP actually, but I think Roma will be extremly hard to beat,,

    Also will be interesting to see what they gonna do with their older players . Ideally for me Bonansea and Gama are bench players and Girelli only starts against bottom half teams. Feels it could be a catastrophe season for Juve and they miss top3 even, or maybe their strategy with youngster works out...

    Edit:Also Sassuolos youngster Sciabici seems to be joining Juve on a three years-deal, on loan in the beginning though, proving the point above
     
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  5. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    Meanwhile, Joe Montemurro was signed by OL: not bad that Serie A Femminile gives their next coach to the Champions' League finalists of the last season. :coffee:
     
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  6. dravde

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    Atalanta
    Sweden
    Mar 19, 2024
    Yea not sure it was wise of Juve to part with Joe, but maybe it was his decision. The thing who didn't work for him was mainly that many foreigner who arrived in the end flopped and that the old generation dropped in quality so fast,maybe not his fault, but think he did a good job with making Grosso a great player and was quite good tactically.
     
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  7. Lechus7

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    Rumour has it Nikola Karczewska (age 24) former Bayern Leverkusen on loan from Tottenham is close to finalize her transfer to AC Milan.

    Last season in Bundesliga she scored 10 goals and noted 2 assist across 20 matches (1284 mins).
     
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  8. blissett

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    #2508 blissett, Jun 26, 2024
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    Some sparse market news from the last days :coffee::

    - There were a lot of renewals of contracts in Serie A Femminile: in particular Fiorentina re-signed Goalkeeper Rachele Baldi, Slovenian Full-Back Kaja Eržen and, especially, Spanish Play-Maker Verónica Boquete. The fact that she was offered a renewal at 37 means that she's still considered a key-player, at least in the domestic league (that recently awarded her the title of best Midfielder of the season) but probably also in prospect of the Champions' League's run. On the other hand, she was just signed until the 30th of June of 2025: a sign that, at her age, her situtation will probably be assessed season by season by her club and by herself.

    - Juventus has two quite important new signings: one of them is GK Alessia Capelletti, who recently played for Empoli e for Parma, always showing a very good potential at just 25 (still quite young for a GK); she had been relegated with Parma at the end of the season 2022-2023: then she remained with the Emilian team, trying to be promoted back right away, but Parma fell short (just reaching the 3rd place in Serie B this season); it makes sense that such a good GK raised the attention of some top Serie A club. Of course, Pauline Peyraud-Magnin, who recently signed a contract unitl 2025, will likely remain the starting GK, so Capelletti will most probably sit on the bench or play in the Coppa Italia, while trying to climb the rankings for the future seasons. The other new signing for Juventus is international Valentina Bargamaschi, from Milan AC: a winger that can basically do anything, from defensive duties to being deployed in offense and scoring goals: a defense-line with her and Lisa Boattin as the Full-Backs can be incredibly effective and easily support the offensive play with runs, crosses and shots. At 27, Bergamaschi is in her prime: this is sure a very good signing for Juventus (and a clue that Milan AC are giving up? :unsure:).

    - Juventus are though rumoured to be going to lose Jennifer Onyi Echegini to Paris Saint-Germain: it looks like she was a little too much good for Serie A Femminile. Last season, the French club had already stolen Tabitha Chawinga from the Italian League, that's more and more looking like a developmental league: some big veterans of the past come here to end their careers, while some top young prospects play just one season in Italy before transferring abroad, to the European actual top-leagues (some of them, as Echegini indeed, even played just an half-season here! :eek: Yui Hasegawa comes to mind: she played the second part of the 2020-21 season in Italy, when she had just turned 24, then she passed to FA-WSL, at first at West Ham and now at Manchester City).

    - Inter recently signed a Belgian MF, Marie Detruyer; although I saw Belgium play Italy quite often in the latest years, I don't remember of her. Is she an international? Does anyone here knows anything more about her? Maybe her signing was made to somehow complement the recent signing of top Belgian MF Tessa Wullaert? :cautious:
     
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  9. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #2509 Lechus7, Jun 26, 2024
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    20 years old midfielder from Oud-Heverlee Leuven club (2020 - 2024: 80 caps / 41 goals)
    with 11 caps and 3 goals for senior NT.
    (OH Leuven won regular season in Belgium this year... though in the end finished 3rd in play-offs, behind Anderlecht and Standard Liege)
    She played in EURO U19 last year where she scored 1 goal in 3 matches.
    Played in all 4 Belgium's qualifying matches for EURO 25 this year (261 mins for avg. 65.25 mins per game with 4 attempts/ 1 on goal, including 1 woodwork)
     
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  10. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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    Germany
    She also scored the first goal against Italy in Arnold Clark Cup 2023.
     
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  11. dravde

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    Atalanta
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    Mar 19, 2024
    Yea agree, Serie A fem is a bit of development leauge, but don't think the leauge has gotten worse the last season on the contrary. I think a few years ago Serie A fem didnt even have players interesting enough for the big clubs, it was mainly a "domestic leauge". I also think if there is a food chain in international football Serie A is above Sweden and Netherland for example, in terms of which direction players go. To come to the next level Serie A needs a few good results in WCL i think.

    The Echegini move seems also to be linked to Juve as a club, which is a bit chatoic at the moment... Inter and Roma looks to be heading right, but still I agree with you , when the big clubs comes knocking, unless you're an italian, you go. It would be very nice if italian clubs could hold on to big players in the future, do you think it's a money issue or the level of the leauge ? Probably both, but mostly? Do Serie A fem players get's paid less than WSL-players, Lyon-players for example?
     
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  12. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    Definitely, the level of the league is part of the reason: Yui Hasegawa, for instance, recently made that clear in an interview where she was talking, between other things, about her transfer from Serie A Femminile to FA-WSL (although, at the beginning, she transferred to a minor club as West Ham, that was anyway obviously deemed better, for her development as a player, than a big club in the Italian League, as Milan AC where she was initially playing). Of course, she wasn't the only one seeing it that way.

    About the money, I must confess that I am not so well-informed about paychecks in other leagues, so I can't properly make a comparison. Maybe other readers of this thread can do? :unsure:
    What I can say is that, since the moment when women's teams started being supported by men's professional clubs, the spending capacity became obviously better in Italy and it can now be considered directly connected with how wealthy the men's affiliated teams is. Of course, though, this also means that, if a nation has a more profitable men's league than Italy, the money invested in the women's football will most probably be proportionally higher: for instance, since Premier League has better wages than Serie A, I expect that difference to quite seamlessly translate to women's football. :coffee:

    Anyway, as I preemptively said, I am only making educated guesses: if any reader has actual data, he's welcome to post them here.
     
  13. dravde

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    Atalanta
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    Mar 19, 2024
    Yea, that would be very interesting to hear,allways a bit mysterious to me in WOFO, seems to be a gap between swedish leauge and the big one's however. If it is as you say mainly about the level of the leauge I think Serie A got a chance.. the leauge has more teams that can potentially battle for the championship than the other big leauges in Europe, bar WSL. This I think makes the leauge more interesting and can attract more good players. Hope also we won't have these unproffesional behaviour from clubs like Pomigliango, Sampdoria, Empoli and so on in the future, that is bad for the leauge image...
     
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  14. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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    Germany
    12 teams in Serie A in 2025/26.
     
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  15. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    Well, it was about time: with just 10 teams and two rounds followed by title-pool and relegation-pool, you had the impression of watching the same games again and again! :sleep:

    Also, the break between title-pool and relegation-pool looked often quite random, at 5th-6th place.

    Finally, 10 teams is not enough for a league that's sending three teams in the Champions' League: more diversity is better to test all of the teams and to reduce randomness.

    I'll soon post again about some sparse market-news, when I'll judge there are enough of them to make a meaningful post. :coffee:
     
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  16. dravde

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    Atalanta
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    Mar 19, 2024
    Good! and to add to the reasons you stated I think there are more teams now that are investing in woso in Italy, for example Lazio, Parma, Ternana and Genoa, so think it makes perfect sense.
     
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  17. blissett

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    #2517 blissett, Jul 3, 2024 at 3:27 AM
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    Some Italian-market updates (more a recap than a news-report, since many of these transfers have already been covered on other threads of this Women's International forum :coffee::

    - no particular news about the coaches: an Italian women's football's news website had misinterpreted a post where Sebastián de la Fuente was thanking all of the players and his staff as a sign of an upcoming transfer, but the club denied that and revealed that the coach has signed a contract until 2025 instead; if you want, the only relevant piece of news here is that De La Fuente has only signed for a single season, but it's quite normal that a so requested coach doesn't want to commit himself for longer and that the club wants to see what he will be able to do on the international stage next season. :coffee:
    In other news, Rita Guarino officially left Inter (everyone knows that Giampiero Piovani is expected to take her place, although at the moment this is just a rumour, as very substantial as it is), after three seasons where she didn't exactly set the world on fire: Inter managed to set up a quite stable position in the title-pool, but they never were actual contenders for the title or for a Champion's League's spot, that's what you would have expected from a coach who had a record of 4 consecutive titles with Juventus.

    - There were a lot of contract-extensions in Serie A Femminile: I'll only mention some of the more significant ones: Barbara Bonansea signed for another season at Juventus; quite expected, but at 33 it was not a given, since the club is trying to renew the team and the core of the veterans is aging. Daniela Sabatino is even older (she just turned 39 at the end of June! :eek:), but she re-signed for Sassuolo: after all, apart from the literal hundreds of goals that she scored in her career (counting all divisions, they should amount to about 500 in 24 years), she posted 7 goals and 3 assists in the last season, where Sassuolo reached a respectable 4th-place. We're going to see what the club, and Sabatino herself, will be able to do now that Giampiero Piovani won't be at the helm anymore.

    - Other players are leaving their clubs instead, some for a still undisclosed destination: Inter in particular, with the change of coach, will face a substantial renewal: 32 yo Tatiana Bonetti, Danish Frederikke Thøgersen, and Norwegian Andrine Tomter already said their goodbyes, although it's stll unknown where they will play; Marta Pandini was signed by Roma, while Agnese Bonfantini, the biggest name among Inter leavers, will be finally back at Juventus, after two seasons around (Sampdoria, Inter). Meanwhile, Amanda Nildén, who was already on loan from Juventus to Tottenham Hotspur, signed a permanent contract for the English club.

    - Inter signed international Ivana Andrés, from Real Madrid: the Spanish DF was a World Champion last year with her NT, although she just started the first two matches of the tournament for her team. The other club from Milan, Milan AC, was even more active on the international market in the last days, since they signed Polish FW Nikola Karczewska from Bayer 04 Leverkusen (10 goals in Frauen-Bundesliga last season) and Finnish DF Emma Koivisto from Liverpool, who recently impressed in the match her NT won vs Italy and who should replace Valentina Bergamaschi, after this last one left to Juventus. :coffee: Silly comment: Koivisto's surname sounds funny in Italian, since it reminds of "Hai visto?", i.e. "Did you see?". :giggle:
     
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  18. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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    Germany
    Fish came to my mind. Hai (shark in German) and Koi (carp).
     
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  19. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    Also, another rumoured transfer from Inter is Serban GK Sara Cetinja probably going to be signed by newly-promoted Lazio.

    So, if Inter lets Cetinja go, it's likely that Francesca Durante is now physically ok. :coffee:
     

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