Pre-match: USA vs Uruguay Copa America group stage 7/1 2100 EST

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jun 27, 2024 at 8:39 PM.

  1. cyberthoth

    cyberthoth Member+

    Nashville SC
    Aug 7, 2000
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I start Aaronson for Weah and I'd consider starting Musah for Adams. We need to win this and we could pretty much book our ticket with a 2-0 win. To me the MMA is great for ties.
     
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  2. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Ironically, it was Bielsa who first lobbied for bringing Aaronson to Leeds.
     
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  3. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    In the World Cup Tim Weah hit a top speed of 34.6 km/h. Single game or small samples of this stat aren’t very useful. What you’d want are stats on someone’s high speed sprints and the distances to spot outliers.
     
  4. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Reyna has played over 75 games in wide positions and never as a high and wide winger.
     
  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Reyna is moved wide, Puli would be high & wide more.
     
  6. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no idea which question Start Aaronson is the correct answer to, but it’s definitely not “Who should play RW against Uruguay in a must win in which we actually need to score?”
     
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  7. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    They're useful if the player has been hitting that number season after season.
     
  8. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Was referring to his overall numbers.
     
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  9. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    Gotta go for it. Take the small chance of winning by 2 and accept the big chance of losing by 4. Better than an almost certainly useless draw.

    What about 2 strikers? Maybe let Adams and Musah cover the midfield and put McKennie on the right?

    Or let Reyna play a 10. 4231?
     
  10. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't put much stock at all in top speed stats for soccer, because players rarely have a chance to accelerate to anywhere near their maximum speed. Sprinters typically take 60-70 meters to accelerate to maximum speed. Soccer players rarely make straight-line runs that long without the ball. So the stat mostly tells you who had the chance to make the longest off-ball runs.
     
  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    We're dead anyway.

    At least we can die with honor.
     
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  12. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Oh, I understood.

    Reyna does not stick to the center of the field. He is positionally undisciplined and often floats into the 6 position when the US has the ball. It’s much better to push him up the field and wide, so that he is confined to the offensive side of the field, where he is often a plus contributor.

    MMA has no problems getting Reyna the ball, and I don’t know why anyone would believe such a thing.
     
  13. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Whats the answer for you
     
  14. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    But Balogun at 36 km/h is amazing. It seems that speed is pretty much wasted most of the time by Berhalter’s use of him.
     
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  15. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Yep they lost their best player by far.. such a stupid decision by him. That's one silver lining for us.
     
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  16. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    My gut says this scenario will play out..
    Just a gut feeling.

    "draw, as long as Panama draws against Bolivia."
     
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  17. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Have to break this out every time we play them

     
  18. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    #143 dlokteff, Jun 28, 2024 at 11:57 PM
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2024 at 12:04 AM
    Perhaps this will make you feel better, perhaps not.

    For those of you that are sure Panama boat races Bolivia 4-0, which has no precedent whatsoever, maybe this sets you a bit towards reality, but probably not.

    Of course, we are in trouble, but the advancement scenarios are many and doable.

    Elo based sim.

    Here is the math:

    USA Loss, Panama Loss, USA 2nd on GD = 7.5%
    USA Win, Panama Win, USA 2nd on GD = 7.1%
    USA Win, Panama Draw/Loss = 6.1% (VEGAS BABY in 0.06%)
    USA Draw, Panama Draw = 5.4%
    USA Draw, Panama Loss = 3.6%
    USA Win, Panama Win, USA 1st on GD...VEGAS BABY = 0.6%
    USA Loss, Panama Loss, Advance 2nd on Goals Scored = 0.2%
    USA Win, Panama Win, Advance 2nd on Goals Scored = 0.01%

    USA advance probability = 30-31%

    All is not lost. Let's do this.

    Though, it's amusing/unsettling/concerning that losing, but losing well, and hoping Bolivia comes correct for us is our best shot.

     
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  19. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Anemic. That is absolutely the word. Not dead. Not terrible. Just... anemic
     
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  20. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    He had some awful misses against Bolivia

    The one yesterday wasn't actually on him, the cross was off and he had to lean back to get his head on the ball, he did well to even get it on frame
     
  21. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    The game management and tournament manager has been "Chef's Kiss" this tournament.

    And the play by this collection of Gen Z players has been "Chef's Kiss" as well.
     
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  22. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I was just thinking of that today. That was probably the craziest matchday 3 I've ever seen.
     
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  23. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Agreed.

    I would ask: "What, exactly, would you say Aaronson does around here?"
     
  24. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Wait 'til Gen-"whatever the next one is". Good god, us Gen Xr's are gonna keel over, literally.
     
  25. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ————————-Balo—————-
    ————Puli——————————
    ——————-Reyna——————-
    ——-Musah————-McKennie—-
    ——————-Adams——————

    Balo up top with Puli as an inverted SS leaning left with ability to roam. Gio tipping the diamond. Get the MMA spine but Wes can also push up on the right flank in the attack.

    This actually has a fair amount of validity to it for this type of opponent.
     

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