Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Incredible that England have wasted so many tournaments on this fraudulent manager but oh well

 

Yep, he should’ve stepped down after the world cup

 

In Southgate's defense, he figured out really early on that Saka is incredible.

 

I think Southgate's super defensive approach isn't crazy when England have elite forwards but don't really have great passers in midfield.

 

He is not even considering a press and playing multiple players out of position

he’s shit

 

Installing a good press takes 18 months at the club level.

 

seriously, though, what was up with that pitch??

 

In addition, after 9 months of club football most players don’t have the legs for a good press.

 

This. Gareth Southgate is the best manager for making sure that Saka is rested for the new season.

 

Southgate should have been sacked after the 2021 final.

 

Honestly England should be playing either Kane in his 9.5 role:


Or alternatively you have to push Bellingham into the midfield and let Foden go up the pitch and bring on a dedicated LW because Foden isn't working out there:


Or just go a Garry Soufgate and just keep doing the same thing that isn't working.

 

All I want for this game is for Jorginho to go two footed into Rodri.

 

Hahahahahaha what a clown.

 

Nico Williams looking really good in this match so far. Italy resorting to hacking fouls to try to contain him.

 

I mean, Southgate could have brought Kalvin Phillips.

 

Southgate has to play a proper deep midfielder or change the formation

it’s not working in any kind of way, he’s isolating players with deep lines

it is not hard to implement a press after 8 years fam. Its basic, at least set some triggers, most players play a high line and press from the front at their clubs

let’s not defend Southgate, a failed club manager who only got the role because fat Sam got sacked

none of the players look
Comfortable, rice and taa are miles behind when the front three go after the ball. It is basic spacing. Even Kane is isolated and coming too deep with no runners behind him

it’s pure madness, it’s like a coach from 1991 from Italy was trying to implement tactics but even worse

 

Nah. The press under Wenger was fine - the issue was what happened if someone beat the press.

 

Donnarumma clearly MotM despite Italy's loss today. 8 saves, nearly every one top class. only goal conceded was an inevitable OG.

 

Italy was terrible. Bryan Cristante . . . woof.

 

it really wasn’t

don’t u remember getting spanked multiple times pressing in a really messy way vs Bayern?

wenger was not capable of implementing a proper press, it was a part of the game we didn’t really utilise well due to the make up of our team

We looks so much better in this current system on the front foot due to the athleticism and size of the team as well as the pace

 

I’m not a Southgate apologist, I think he handled the White situation atrociously, but your point about the makeup of Wenger’s Arsenal teams has, in the recent past, applied to the English National Team. One of the keys to Arteta’s press is the speed at the back, allowing Arsenal to play a high line. Southgate’s past reliance on Maguire in the center of the defense made a low block more practical. With Guehi and Stones he could play a higher line, but between the end of the season and the start of the Euros he hasn’t had a lot of time to implement a change in the defense.

 

Same reason Maguire was a stupid signing for Utd

I really don’t understand how managers or recruitment guys at clubs are so stupid

it’s so obvious to everyone but of course they know better

I would rather England lost trying to win a game that going out on a damp squib