Though the relationship would be different if he came in given Pulisic is our best player. Versus his role at Chelsea. Also hilarious would be if we hired Xavi given the relationship with Dest.
It was more that he wasn't Berhalter and everyone knew he wouldn't actually be head coach. If he had actually taken over he would have gotten the same criticism within days.
I tend to like a lot of what Kasey says in relation to Tab's comments about getting a coach for the short term. Go get the best, most qualified guy who can do the job from now to the World Cup. No five-year plans, no guy who is going to lead the program for a decade, go get the guy who can best whip this team into shape over the course of 18 months for the 2026 World Cup. That's the job, go get the best man you can for it. They also get into the issues with the team maybe being too comfortable under a long-term coach on his second cycle before moving on to Olympics.
I really really liked that guy. Wonder if he's still alive. He was old back then. He'll always be smeared for sitting Messi in the QF with Germany but most of that was due to an emergency goalie injury replacement.
I do think it might be a selling point for a high profile coach that it would/could only be an 18-month commitment. Tell Klopp he can come in in January or even March '25 so that he'd have 8-10 months off after leaving Liverpool and then can jump back to a club team right after the WC for the '26-27 season. The national team gig would still be quasi-down time compared to a high profile club.
A better question is whether there's any noticeable correlation between a new national team coach's salary and performance improvement. Broken record -- the NT coaches on top of the game now were generally not highly sought after when they took that job. Bielsa is probably the best current counterexample, but the actual WC semifinalist coaches were almost never splashy hires. It seems like we should establish that spending money actually helps before we suggest the federation isn't spending enough of it.
The going rate among the best intl feds is to promote from within and then escalate salaries as they attain success (even success in the Gareth Southgate barely-survive-and-advance sense). Who outbid us, ever, for a coach we could have gotten who went on to have national team success?
I think people who try to quantify a coach's value in hard terms usually end up throwing up their hands. For example, from an article in the Athletic: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4494062/2023/05/07/do-football-managers-matter/ If we could really measure managers’ skill levels independent of their team, we might expect it to follow them around from job to job. That’s where things get slippery. For example, Rafa Benitez, one of the very top performers in the Premier League study from his years at Liverpool, looks mediocre in the Serie A study at his very next job at Inter. Claudio Ranieri, one of the least promising performers in the Serie A study, would go on to win Premier League Manager of the Year for leading Leicester City to an all-time great triumph over wages as destiny — then get sacked at the edge of the relegation zone a few months later. other points: A short term bump tends to happen in leagues when a manager is fired. -another study looked at coaching changes across all sports and tended to find that coaching changes either made no difference or had a slight negative effect overall. Who knows? Especially in soccer.
Considering that Jeff Carlisle is one of the journalists that USSF tends to use when they want stuff out in the public (Doug McIntyre being another) I am fairly confident in saying that the names Jeff mentioned are names being discussed internally... which for people who don't want to read the article are... Jurgen Klopp David Wagner Steve Cherundolo Hugo Perez Marcelo Gallardo Jose Pekerman Patrick Viera
Nice to have an extensive diverse list at least. The text typifies the weird gap between discussion of NT coaching candidates versus actual performance of NT coaches. Even if you think Klopp is a slam-dunk hire at any price, that is a patently ridiculous sentence. Anyone sane would wish for the US coach to have one or more wins coaching a national team, all else equal. Both these sentences are even by the same author, Jeff Carlisle! I think what he means is that Klopp is so stellar that you wouldn't think twice about his lack of NT coaches. Cherundolo isn't so accomplished so his lack of NT experience is a greater concern. Well, I would think twice (the club to NT transition is my biggest concern about Jürgen) but that's at least coherent. Also Carlisle. Has he lost the plot and thinks this is a club opening? Diversity in experience is good, I suppose, but international track records are short. I'd much rather have ten years' success in NT coaching, which is just two WC cycles, than five in NTs and five successful years in club coaching. BTW... Mallorca is Aguirre's current club. Somehow that got left out. Pékerman is interesting, in part because all four group winners at the CA have Argentine coaches.
Why not more support for Pablo Mastroeni as next coach? He's played in two World Cups. Has several years of coaching experience. Has RSL playing at a good level. Think he would connect well with current batch of players, and also be a motivator/disciplinarian.
Yes please: Klopp Of course....interesting maneuver: Gallardo, Pekerman, Vieira I wouldn't hate it: Cherundolo, Wagner Oh god please no: Perez
Argentine managers seem to be more willing to coach national teams who aren’t their own (and good enough to get offers to do so). 7 of the 15 Copa America managers were Argentine. I think it’s because even for top Argentine managers it can be hard to get a top 5 league job.
Ah, not sure if the muddled thinking in Jeff's segments should worry me more then! Also Pellegrino Matarazzo should imo easily be in any semi-realistic list of 16 coaches we'd like for the US. Since he's not on the ESPN list, I wonder if that means he's proactively rejected them, if they're not interested, or if it's just a bit of delta between the ESPN list and their actual thinking.
Really? It surprises you that people were happy when we won annd created chances and generally looked dangerous, better than we looked under GB’s leadership?
Probably water under the bridge at this point, but... I don't think this is true. Maybe there's a case for Callahan, but Hudson probably underperformed Berhalter. 1-0 win over El Salvador in home Nations League xg: 1.69 In World Cup qualifying the XG was 2.98. Different sites, so that's not exactly apples to apples, but that's a big gap. The only other A side competitive match for Hudson was against Grenada.
A match where a home side wearing green and yellow lost 7-1. Speaking of which, happy 10 year anniversary to that other 7-1.