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Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nbarbour, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
  2. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
     
  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx BigSoccer Yellow Card

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were people saying the US should hire Herve Renard after the World Cup... I remember because I was one of them!

    Another name that was brought up was Wilfried Nancy. I remember because I was one of them!

    As far as "speaks English" another name that was mentioned repeatedly was Bielsa who they didn't hire because he doesn't speak English and is now on the brink of eliminating the US in the group stage... how is that even possible when he doesn't speak English as well as the Eggg??

    US Soccer about to have Eggg on their face!

     
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  4. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    From Pioli's wiki page:

    An elegant, tenacious, physical, and mobile defender, Pioli was capable of playing anywhere along the back-line, although he performed best as a man-marking centre-back, or "stopper," in Italian. Considered to be a promising and consistent player in his youth, his career was affected by numerous serious injuries
     
  5. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, when the US ends with two losses out of three and a -4 GD and Berhalter isn’t fired but gets “strong support from USSF” who are you going to be rooting for in 2026?
     
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  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Notable for the Cherundolo case

     
  7. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question is this. They hired a search firm to find a sporting director and clearly did a worldwide search and hired someone none of us expected and with no ties whatsoever to US Soccer.

    And Crocker comes in as someone with lots of other career options and with the USMNT coaching job as one of his most important decisions. Do you think they suddenly abandoned the idea of doing a broad search at that point, or that Crocker would have taken the job if he had no real say in the coaching hire? Or do you think it’s more likely that we didn’t have a lot of good candidates available given the salary we are willing to pay?

    And we also have credible reports they were ready to hire Marsch till the players intervened.
     
  8. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I have an idea that I gleaned from USA politics: "Let's try it for the next four years with no head coach."
     
  9. PJ234

    PJ234 Member

    DC united
    United States
    Oct 17, 2021
    I mean if we do lose and Bolivia beats Panama. We still advance.
     
  10. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Counting on help from one of the poorest teams in the tournament? Sounds like a "Berhalter" plan. We dug this hole and only the USA itself should be responsible for extricating USA soccer from the pit.

    We do need some help but scoring 4 or 5 would go a LONG way toward making the help needed minimal.
     
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  11. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    We were toying around with Bielsa awhile ago. In 2023 Mexico went down the road with him and he was asking them for $10m/year. He took less from Uruguay because they are closer to his home country (and probably because they have a much better team that won’t embarrass him).
     
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  12. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Lots of AC Milan fans don’t like him. They think he does a very poor job of fitting profiles together and picking lineups.
     
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  13. Kirium

    Kirium Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK
    Unfortunately, I think you're correct. Unless Uruguay just wipes the pitch with the USMNT and the team looks discombobulated, I think you're right.
     
  14. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Is there any possibility that some of our lads might be bribable enough to tank the last match and assure Gregg's demise?
    As much as i want Gregg gone, and have since he was first hired, I do not think our players get that petty. But you never know.
     
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  15. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FWIW.

     
  16. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate that so much. But not as much as I love the US team, so whatever, go USA!
     
  17. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    You're going to need a cite on that. Mexican fans seem pretty certain that he asked for $10M from the FMF, and that's a lot closer culturally to Argentina than the US. And also a decent amount of time physically closer.

    I'd imagine speaking English is not very important when you are coaching Uruguayan players.
     
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  18. Ball Chucking Hack

    Jan 21, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    Wouldn't they say this either way?
    You wouldn't throw more pressure on the team by saying the coach's job is on the line.
     
  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Also, it's Wynalda. So, the fwiw that the poster had should take that into account.

    The only reason I could think that anyone could be certain is financial. Which is possible.
     
  20. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because they understand the impact of Weah's red card. Nevertheless, we should be able to at least get a draw against an unmotivated Uruguayan B team
     
  21. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just putting it out there as Wynalda has connections but it's also.....Wynalda.

    Who knows what will happen if we lose.

    I wouldn't completely discount the Fed wanting to keep G either way and G resigning. That's a scenario I don't see being acknowledged.
     
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  22. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know it's off topic but hiring William Wilson was one of the dumbest things. Coming over from Wasserman he didn't help at all, and the. JT Batson didn't really help much in the TV negotiations.

    On the pay scale thing, I know I've seen it on here but I was never able to find that they must pay men's and women's coaches the same. Happen to have that in a link anywhere? Everything I could find always came from Charlie Davies and this says he was wrong https://girlssoccernetwork.com/us-soccer-equal-pay-agreement-uswmnt-usmnt/

    All I could find was that it split the WC bonuses (which is crazy) and that the women will be paid for the Olympics while the men won't and the men have Nations League and Gold Cup while women have the SheBelieves that remains separate.

    I think USSF lost like 30 million in revenue last year but it's supposed to be a surplus with the Copa and increased TV rights. So they should have enough money to pay a coach.
     
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  23. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I wish i felt there was a chance of this but I do not think Gregg has the class to resign no matter how badly his teams play.
    That is another problem we have as a soccer nation; we do not take responsibility for our screwups. We always look to affix the blame anywhere but on us.
    Gregg resigning just won't happen because that would require him to admit he did wrong and that is very unlikely to happen.

    I think we have successfully created a true "classless" entity with USA soccer society.
     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx BigSoccer Yellow Card

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well then good thing Eggg speaks English with USMNT players and we won't be humiliated by failing to get out of the group stage in a tournament being hosted in the US where all three teams are lower in the FIFA rankings than the US and two of the three are Bolivia and Panama! :thumbsup:
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx BigSoccer Yellow Card

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to choose to believe that Eric Wynalda has no idea what he's talking about as usual, because the alternative is too embarrassing to contemplate...
     
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