By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
  1. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
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    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    #1 Dan Loney, Jun 12, 2018
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    Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

    By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
    So. The last few hours before the fate of American soccer is irrevocably altered.

    There will be some soccer games as well, but the real contest will be decided in the halls of power.

    Hope Solo isn’t going to cast the deciding vote on whether Morocco, North America, or Ankh-Morpork will host the 2026 World Cup. And you, Gentle-or-otherwise-leaning-toward-the-second-nothing-personal-just-a-wild-guess Reader, have probably already factored Hope’s insights into forming your own opinion on who should host, or have decided not to for whatever reason. So a detailed point-by-point analysis of her position isn’t urgent.

    It is news when a former (let’s face it) United States Soccer Federation player does not support its bid to host the World Cup. I think that’s a reasonable read on the situation, since her conditions for supporting the bid, listed on her website, are not likely to be met anytime soon. Hope Solo doesn’t want the World Cup awarded to soccer federations that are beset with corruption, inequality, and self-interest. So she’s pretty much calling for the World Cup to be cancelled. That’s her right, but it’s also our right to call her a traitor to American soccer.

    Which she is not, however, and we’d be wrong to do so.

    Unless you consider men’s soccer and women’s soccer to be the same thing. Hope is saying that the women’s program is being neglected at the expense of the men’s program. So why should she support the 2026 bid?

    You and I may disagree with her premise, and argue that what’s good for American men’s soccer is good for American women’s soccer. As President Kennedy said, “A rising tide lifts all boats, including the ones we’re sending to the Bay of Pigs.” But that sure as Shark Sandwich did not work in reverse. Back before any of us were born, between 1999 and 2002, the women’s program forced its way into America’s heart. Meanwhile, the men’s program had Harksed itself and MLS was at death’s door.

    And I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but there’s not what you’d call a lot of unity between men’s national team players and women’s national team players. Hell, the teams by themselves have more cliques than a Shawn Michaels documentary. If the two unions were to, for want of a better term, unite, the federation would – well, they’d try to call in replacements and sell them as the national teams, but we’d know better. That’s implausible to the point of comedy, and Hope herself contributes to that in no tiny way. Get her on a podcast and ask her about Alex Morgan – or Carli Lloyd, or coaches, or the weather – and decide for yourself.

    If Hope were to backstab a prospective Women’s World Cup bid, now that would be treason. Not to the USSF, one of the nation’s many institutions and individuals who wrap themselves in the flag but do not represent it. Might as well swear loyalty to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. No, it would be treason to her sport – not soccer, but women’s soccer. The fans that Michelle Akers and Mia Hamm brought in became her fans, and Hope Solo has some obligation to make sure her fans become fans of the next generation of women’s players.

    But she’s not messing with Ertz, Mewis and Dunn. She’s messing with Pulisic, Adams and Weah. Maybe not the coolest thing she could do, but what are they ever going to do for her?

    Oh, and to get on board the Unpopular Opinion and/or Conspiracy Theory World Cup edition things that are going around….

    I don’t know what she might have said. I don’t know what she might have done. But Greg Ryan wasn’t just playing the percentages like Mr. Burns putting in Homer to pinch-hit for Darryl Strawberry. Hope Solo did SOMETHING to get her ass benched in 2007. We just don’t know what it was. But it sure as hell was something, and Greg Ryan has been a hero to keep his mouth shut.

    I will die convinced of this. Or of some painful disease. One or the other.

    _________________

    People who think Rocco Commisso is a reformer should be kept away from objects.

    Not just sharp objects. All objects.

    _______________

    Congratulations to Tiffeny Milbrett, Brad Friedel, Cindy Cone, Dr. Bob Contiguglia and #SaveTheCrew on their election to the National Soccer Hall of Fame!

    Did everyone notice the staggered rollout of the inductee announcements? That was very considerate of the winners who are not currently trying to ship the Columbus Crew south by southwest. Commissioner Garber was fricasseed on social media for hours after the announcement, and rightly so. In fact, it was pretty merciful on Garber that the Hall had four other names to roll out.

    Milbrett is a huge relief to me, at least, I was worried she was going to be overlooked. It doesn’t look like a lot of the 1990’s players are going to be overlooked forever. There were a couple of stories I feel were overlooked.

    Apparently Garber was elected as a Builder in 2016, but, according to US Soccer, he chose to wait until this year for his official induction, ostensibly to honor Lamar Hunt. I don’t know whether Chastain, MacMillan, Scurry, and Dr. Machnik were offered the same option to honor Mr. Hunt.

    If Garber did intend to simply bestow honor on Lamar Hunt – something he presumably could have done without the distraction of an induction speech – then it’s really a shame how circumstances turned out. Garber will of course be booed clean out of the building. And he would have avoided this fate by simply accepting induction when it was given. So among the many predictable and avoidable consequences of the attempted Austin move, we can now add the imminent ruin of Garber’s induction and the overshadowing of the man he intends to honor. It’s enough to get Sophocles on the phone to Aeschylus to ask whether it’s nemesis that comes after hubris or the other way round.

    Friedel and Milbrett topped a small stack of US men’s national team stalwarts, but never stars. Bocanegra now holds, by a considerable margin, the record for most USMNT caps without election to the Hall of Fame. I was getting used to thinking Eddie Lewis (82), Steve Cherundolo (87) and Frankie Hejduk (85) would be roughly the minimum number of caps required for consideration. Bocanegra had 110, tied for tenth all-time. If for some weird reason Bocanegra is not inducted in the next few years, that means the (unofficial) USMNT standard for election has been raised considerably. In a related story, Jozy Altidore also has 110 caps for the US men’s national team.

    Which I guess is why we wait to induct, or not. Michael Bradley has 140 caps, and I doubt he’d cross 50% with the current mood. Now, if Canada gets its own Hall of Fame, Bradley and Altidore have a great shot.

    Steven Goff of the Washington Post had the voting percentages of the top twenty vote-getters.

    The bottom three vote-getters were Juan Pablo Angel, Bobby Convey and Jay DeMerit, and they will not be on next year’s ballot. I can’t say I’m surprised, except at some of who finished above them. Maybe Lori Lindsey will have a groundswell of support next year.

    More likely not, though. Here’s a taste of who’s going to be on next year’s ballot: Shannon Boxx, Lori Chalupny, Stephanie Lopez Cox, Dwayne DeRosario, Todd Dunivant, Lauren Cheney Holiday, Karina LeBlanc, Amy LePeilbet, Homare Sawa, Cat Whitehill….

    And Abby something or other. I’ll look her up. Old WUSA player.

    ________________

    Yeah, I’ll do some kind of World Cup prediction preview this week. This is, after all, a comedy blog. But I did want to share the idea, and whoever wants to take credit can step forward, for an FC Cincinnati rebrand.

    I have this grand plan to name soccer teams lacking actual nicknames after their musical contributions – Nashville Pride, Washington Bad Brains, Detroit Clown Posse, and so forth. So let’s have the Cincinnati Bootsies – the logo is a soccer ball wearing star sunglasses*.

    On the microscopic chance that this idea is rejected, they can alter FCC to The FCC, aka The Feds. There’s even a logo from the past waiting to be revived!

    KJU.png

    FC Cincinnati's rebrand is actually being handled by the same folks who vandalized the Juventus logo. But of course, Juve didn't have the culture, history and iconography that a team like FC Cincinnati has. I'm sure the new FCC logo will make the Spinal Tap cover look like the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

    *LAST MINUTE JOKE - not to be confused with the Little Boots, which should be used in case the name changes from FC Cincinnati to FC Caligula. The team would still honor a Roman military leader. And if you're gonna rebrand, baby, rebrand.
     
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How funny would it be if Morocco gets the bid?

  1. Um, not very funny, what with human rights and stuff

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  2. Oh....yeah, you're right, it wouldn't be funny, sorry about that

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Discussion in 'Articles' started by Dan Loney, Jun 12, 2018.

    1. Beau Dure

      Beau Dure Member+

      May 31, 2000
      Vienna, VA

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      Abby already? Has Roger Allaway checked this out?

      AFAIK, Solo is still best buds with Carli Lloyd. But I could've missed something.

      But the basic point of hosting the World Cup in the mythical land of Narnia is very well taken, especially after reading this horror story on Russia and FIFA:

      http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/23714076/inside-battle-russian-influence-fifa

      I sometimes think we could've taken the moral high ground and avoided the embarrassment of Couva by simply withdrawing. But you can imagine how that would've played in Peoria. (Meanwhile, Couva stadium namesake Ato Boldon continues to be the best commentator in track and field.)
       
    2. Martininho

      Martininho Member+

      Feb 13, 2007
      Chicago
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      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      I've played in Peoria...cheatin' Kuntz, always had to be 2 goals better to overcome the home cookin' from their pocketed refs.

      Being of predominantly Irish/Scot heritage, however, it's of course all forgiven and forgotten. :eek::sleep:

      Back to live action.
       
    3. Bill Archer

      Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 19, 2002
      Washington, NC
      Club:
      Columbus Crew
      Nat'l Team:
      United States
      #4 Bill Archer, Jun 12, 2018
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      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      I have lately been increasingly leaning towards the view that the USSF should politely withdraw its' bid and -again politely - announce that there will be no subsequent bids for any FIFA tournament until that den if liars and thieves is purged of, well, liars and thieves.

      Let them hold the damn thing in Morocco or Zanzibar or Fiji. We no longer care despite Infantino's mad dash to get himself elected by a) bribing small countries which barely even have national programs with mountains of money with which to finance swanky headquarters buildings and buy limos and b) increasing the size of the tournament field to 48, 64, 199, whatever it takes to include large numbers of teams who don't belong there because between the automatic funding and the first class travel and VIP ticketing for 100 or so federation officials who look suspiciously like hookers and coke dealers, it's a swell deal and who cares anyway?

      The important thing is that the US is now absolutely, positively guaranteed to make the World Cup every year from now on. No reason to conduct a Hex if all six teams are going anyway. We don't need to host in order to get in. USA! USA! USA!

      Which makes the current trashing and neglect and imminent bulldozing of Crew Stadium at the hands of a west coast trust fund punk who has personally attended around six soccer games, lifetime, much more palatable since except for bragging rights, any future Dos-a-cero will be as meaningless as a late season Colorado Rapids vs....well, anybody, match.

      Of course speculation is rampant that many FIFA nations - particularly the shitholes - may object to being called shitholes by the President of the United States, preferring to hold their quadrennial money grab in kinder, gentler places like Russia and Qatar and now Morocco, to which I can only say Go for it. After all, if you're FIFA, you long ago passed the point at which stuff like hypocrisy bothered you.

      What probably WILL bother them is passing on the estimated $14 billion payoff from a North American tournament (OK, who are we kidding, the US - we'll let Canada hold a few games in places where they swore just 2 years ago that growing grass was impossible when it was only women who would be playing but where, magically, the men's teams will find themselves playing on bright green grass).

      That's what it's always come down to in the end; Qatar sent BinnyMo around the globe spreading joy, love and cash for all in return for their votes and Russia did the same, only they're better at making offers you can't refuse than a bunch of chubby middle eastern princelings, and way, way better at covering their tracks.

      The US+ those other guys bid was, is and always has been about money. Unheard of piles of it. Hope Solo has never understood a damn thing except how to get arrested but even she ought to be able to grasp that.
       
    4. Dan Loney

      Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 10, 2000
      Cincilluminati
      Club:
      Los Angeles Sol
      Nat'l Team:
      Philippines

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      For once I did check. I'm pretty sure Abby's on deck. You're right about Solo and Lloyd; the podcast I heard had Hope tearing into Morgan while complimenting Lloyd. It doesn't take much to get Hope going.
       
    5. Cavan9

      Cavan9 Member

      Nov 16, 2011
      Silver Spring, MD
      Club:
      DC United
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      Will the wretched hive of scum and villainy known as FIFA flush billions of dollars down the toilet because their fragile egos were bruised by both the U.S. Department of Justice proving that they are indeed crooks and a childish insult by a childishly insulting U.S. President, despite the fact the childish and insulting President will be long gone by 2026? With this group of ego-maniacal thieves, I'm beginning to think they will. They're not really known for long-term thinking. Witness Russia and Qatar as exhibits A and B.
       
    6. Mateofelipe

      Mateofelipe Member+

      Mar 10, 2001
      Spokane, WA
      Club:
      Seattle Sounders
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      I think soccer teams should be named after the town's beloved and/or infamous entertainers. So almost the same as your suggestion. Naming FCC after Doris Day would fit both our criteria. The Cincinnati Sweethearts. The Spokane Bingos. The Bayou Britneys. The Long Island Lohans. The Augusta Godfathers. Et al.
       
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    7. AndyMead

      AndyMead Homo Sapien

      Nov 2, 1999
      Seat 12A
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      Sporting Kansas City

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      I've yet to see a real cogent analysis of this.

      Yes. A World Cup in the United States would raise ungodly amounts of aboveboard income in tickets/broadcasting/sponsorship.

      But those are above the line moneys that are tracked and budgeted. Yes, every small federation can make big bank off of that, and can siphon off monies for personal use according to their in-country laws after they cash the check.

      Do we know, for a fact, that the actual total cash flow of holding the tournament in Qatar or Morocco would be any less than in the United States?

      The big sell in the U.S. is "no construction necessary".

      Why did the big UEFA FIFA ExCo members vote for Qatar/Russia? Who do you think won most of the contracts for engineering and equipment to build all those stadiums?

      Remember when Russia spent $50 billion - yes billion on the Sochi Olympics - $10 billion more than China spent on the Beijing games?

      The real appeal of Morocco is all of that below the line money. The construction contracts are rarely factored in at the FIFA level. The ability to pad figures and direct huge sums of unaccounted for funds to specific targets is the big appeal. That sort of financial loophole just doesn't exist in the United Bid. Not to mention the fact that any and all moneys would be transiting the U .S. banking system with all of its checks and balances and reporting requirements.

      While FIFA itself might be passing on many billions in revenue, I'm not sure that by voting against United 2026, the people who run FIFA and get a vote will be passing on any income.

      FIFA and the IOC chose Switzerland for their international headquarters for a reason - and it wasn't the famous Swiss neutrality.
       
    8. Ismitje

      Ismitje Super Moderator
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      Dec 30, 2000
      The Palouse
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      Real Salt Lake
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      United States

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      I wouldn't mind an Ankh-Mopork hosted Cup; Vines wouldn't put up with hooliganism, that's for damn sure.
       
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    9. an1310

      an1310 Member

      Jun 2, 2003
      Atlanta, GA

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      Apparently, FIFA decided the money they could make above-board with the United bid was more than they could steal with Morocco.
       
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    10. AndyMead

      AndyMead Homo Sapien

      Nov 2, 1999
      Seat 12A
      Club:
      Sporting Kansas City

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      Or it's also possible that most of the heads of FAs around the planet aren't hopelessly corrupt kleptocrats afterall, but in fact people that have dedicated their lives to growing and administering soccer in their countries.

      Who knew?
       
    11. Cavan9

      Cavan9 Member

      Nov 16, 2011
      Silver Spring, MD
      Club:
      DC United
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      I'll go with a little from column A and a little from column B.
       
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    12. Beau Dure

      Beau Dure Member+

      May 31, 2000
      Vienna, VA

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      The Athens Stipes has a nice ring to it.
       
    13. AndyMead

      AndyMead Homo Sapien

      Nov 2, 1999
      Seat 12A
      Club:
      Sporting Kansas City

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      Polvo too obscure?
       
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    14. JayRockers!

      JayRockers! Member+

      Aug 4, 2001

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      The Athens B-52’s may not want that rebranding.

      Thx,

      Jay!
       
    15. Mateofelipe

      Mateofelipe Member+

      Mar 10, 2001
      Spokane, WA
      Club:
      Seattle Sounders
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      So many possibilities for Athens. The Bombers. The Love Tractors. Endless possibilities. Miami Sound Machine SC would be too cool, but I don't think Emilio would go for it. How about the Athens Deep Sleep? Somebody would get it.
       
    16. Beau Dure

      Beau Dure Member+

      May 31, 2000
      Vienna, VA

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      Is that a Dreams So Real reference?

      Rough Night in Jericho was such a good album.
       
    17. Mateofelipe

      Mateofelipe Member+

      Mar 10, 2001
      Spokane, WA
      Club:
      Seattle Sounders
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      Rapid Eye Movement. Although that would have been cooler.
       
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    18. Timon19

      Timon19 Member+

      Jun 2, 2007
      Akron, OH

      Soccer Before the Storm - Prosperity is Never Treason

      By Dan Loney on Jun 12, 2018 at 9:16 AM
      I have a hard time believing that a Hope Solo podcast isn't just one continuous shitshow of crazy.
       

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