By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
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    Cincilluminati
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    #1 Dan Loney, Apr 25, 2018
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    MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

    By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
    Guy says to Bruce Arena, “Who the hell wants to read your stupid book about how you screwed up the entire country through your own stubborn, idiot incompetence?” And Bruce says, “Well, let’s see you do any better, James Comey.”

    Hi everyone. Sorry I haven’t written. The Confederates continue to hold Chancellorsville, our poodles needed shaving, and every time I start a freaking paragraph about American soccer something comes along and obliterates the subject.

    I have been trying to sum up the saga of FC Cincinnati, whose journey to MLS has made the end of “Lord of the Rings” look positively brisk in comparison. They’ve risen from the dead more times than Lazarus. So, at least twice.

    And so it came to pass that FC Cincinnati decided to explore building a stadium in the West End, which locally is a subject that usually includes words like “gentrification” and “redevelopment” and “revitalization.” In other words, it’s got black people in it.

    The difference between the expansion saga of FC Cincinnati and, to pick an example entirely on the basis of hilarity, Miami Beckham United, is that FCC has done so many things amazingly well. What they have not done well, yet, is market to Cincinnati’s African-American community.

    I have pitched an ad campaign along the lines of “What else are you gonna watch, the Reds? The Bengals? What are you, gluttons for punishment?” I’ll let you know what I hear back.

    Okay, so nobody has marketed pro soccer to the African-American community particularly well yet. But comparatively few teams or potential teams based their hopes on a stadium in a long-standing, traditional black neighborhood. The two that jump to mind are FCC and Miami Beckham United, and I’m starting to feel like I’m using Miami Beckham United as a crutch for cheap laughs at this point.

    The potential land for the stadium – well, I guess the land actually exists, doesn’t it? The land for the potential stadium is currently managed by Cincinnati Public Schools, and before FCC wandered along was meant for fancy new housing at reduced property tax rates.

    So all FCC had to do was convince the school district that the stadium was a better deal than the housing. Clearly the best way to do this was - set a deadline of eight hours out of thin air.

    Cincinnati Public Schools, naturally, told the soccer team to suck rocks.

    And FCC, by God, gave in. I don’t know if anyone will ever take an FC Cincinnati ultimatum seriously now, but I honestly have to give credit to Jeff Berding (FCC’s grand vizier) for realizing that the Cincinnati Bengals had poisoned the well for this sort of blackmail in Cincinnati pretty much forever. (It was of course Mr. Berding himself who was pouring that particular poison way back when. At least he’s not a one trick pony.


    But West End anti-stadium forces weren’t done yet. Well, they were, but they didn’t know it, and by golly they went out strong.

    Had you told me twenty years ago that a second division soccer team would shrug off a threatened Jesse Jackson boycott, I would have said “That’s what you came back in time to tell me? Literally nothing more interesting will happen, ever? You aren’t using the fabled power of time travel on something this frivolous, are you? Please tell me you’re not. At least tell me you took care of Hitler before stopping by here.” And wouldn’t you have felt silly.

    Anyway, Jesse Jackson had so little impact on the conversation, I barely have an excuse to post this picture of the Reverend playing “black friend” to Cincinnati mayor John Cranley’s Stephen Colbert.

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    The Cincinnati City Council voted to approve something like thirty-six million fish in infrastructure for a stadium that, for the most part, Mr. Lindner will build his own damn self.

    Maybe it’s because Carl Lindner re-created so perfectly Tony Cox’s negotiation scene with the late, great Bernie Mac in “Bad Santa,” but I couldn’t have been happier for FCC, Lindner, or the Cincinnati community. Finally, a public-private partnership where everyone benefits, or at least where the latter doesn’t completely pull a heist on the former.

    What a cheerful blog post that would have been. But there had to be more comedy.

    Probably the bit that got the most nationwide attention, at least among the greater American soccer community, was the name change. It is now no longer Futbol Club Cincinnati. It is now Fußball Club Cincinnati.

    Which is great. Well, not great. But really, not any dumber than "Futbol Club". Except, unless I badly misread something, FC Cincinnati let the Fußball Club trademark lapse back in October.

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    Eh, maybe the government site isn’t up to date.

    The journey of FC Cincinnati has already been, well, dumb as all hell. The name and colors were a direct ripoff of the Netherlands, for whatever reason. They earmarked stadiums in neighborhoods that hated them, and negotiated with all the canny skill of a drunk arguing with a video poker game. And they won.

    So FC Cincinnati has the requirements for Major League Soccer’s expansion – rich owner, public approval for a stadium. That’s a lot farther along than, to pick an example not entirely at random, Austin, Texas (sorry, got tired of using Miami as a punchline).

    Best of all, the deal was made right before the MLS Board of Governors meeting on April 17, giving the league a perfect chance to announce its latest expansion team. Said perfect chance was, naturally, not taken advantage of.

    There’s probably a reason that MLS did not make the announcement, besides giving Sacramento one final chance to come up with an investor from the McDuck family tier of wealth. I just can’t think of one. The bright side is, I think at least now Cincinnati has finally, finally cut in front of Detroit.

    Unperturbed, our heroes press on. FCC is leaving nothing to chance. Hard feelings in the West End have been mended thanks to a community benefits agreement…that promptly got the president of the local council impeached. Connoisseurs of irony will note that the impeachment proceedings carried in a YMCA named after Carl H. Lindner, the FCC owner’s dad.

    So, like James Taylor and Cliff Clavin, we’ve seen fire and we’ve seen rain. FCC has cleared the hurdles, has the money, has the stadium, has the sponsors, and it’s simply a matter of time before…wait, what’s this?

    https://twitter.com/PBrennanENQ/status/987822265390727169

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    And that, my friends, is when I died and went to hell.

    _________________

    Whereupon I was instantly joined by Precourt Sports Ventures.

    I’m sorry I haven’t left the state of Ohio for any kind of news or analysis. To make it up to you comedy-wise, relive this awesome headline.

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    This league. This freaking league.

    There are plenty of wonderful ways to follow the ongoing drama of Hashtag Save the Crew, and I’m sure names like Steve Sirk, Morgan Hughes, Keith Naas, Miki Turner, and let me know if I’m forgetting anyone. Bill something or other?

    There are three things that I think either haven’t received enough attention, or just stand out in some way. This isn’t the first time Ohio government officials have been trying to keep a beloved team from leaving. And no, the Crew are nowhere near as popular as the Browns were. Either they were enough of a part of the sports fabric to justify the effort, or Crew fans are a large enough bloc to justify pandering towards.

    So right there, even before you compare Ohio with the utter don’t-give-a-crapitude coming out of Austin’s equivalent elected officials, shoots down all this yammering drabble about attendance. It may not be the most fantastic of looks to have that many empty seats, but unlike a lot of poor attendance stories inside and outside Major League Soccer, this one has a pretty darned obvious explanation. I wouldn’t give Anthony Precourt money to wash my car.

    The other revelation, which has NOT gone unnoticed by the general American soccer public, is the dismal and inglorious rout of the word “owner” in favor of the astonishing comeback of the term “investor/operator.”

    So nobody’s looking at their 2010 Colorado MLS Cup memorabilia – and like me, I’m sure you have quite a haul – and thinking “If Stan Kroenke didn’t own the Rapids, but was merely investing/operating them, then this is all WORTHLESS.” But there had to be some reason to maintain the fiction of independent ownership. If only because this is some serious “Winston Smith trudging wearily to the Department of Truth before the Eastasia/Eurasia switch speech even ends” stuff going on here.

    Fine. We knew the owners – God DAMN it – we knew the investor/operators were joined in a common cause already. And not merely in sort of the obvious way NFL teams band together to protect the integrity of the league (once they ever get around to finding it) (still got it) (I can’t believe the Pulitzers passed me over again, either). Soccer United Marketing is where the action is, after all. They all get an equal piece of that, and then run their own teams according to whether they want to spend like a Sounder or rot like a Revolution.

    And now we are reminded why the “owner” fiction was so assiduously nurtured. If it’s all one big happy company, then, uh, why are the Los Angeles teams splashy with the cashy? Why are other teams subsidizing NYCFC derping in Yankee Stadium until the sun turns red? And why can’t the other own – why can’t the other investor/operators tell Precourt to quit embarrassing the damned league already?

    I could almost understand the league nuking the ownership fiction over something important, like paying players or winning an anti-trust lawsuit, but….

    Oh. Speaking of things that will outlast a cockroach’s panic room. It’s just barely possible that the North American Soccer Lawsuit (one assumes the name change is official) has been made aware of the latest MLS gear shift. I’m sure Ricky and Rocky’s teams are flooding courthouses with Motions to Hey, Wait a Second, I Thought You Said You Weren’t One Big Corporate Octopus That Runs American Soccer. Sorry for the legal jargon.

    But the Single Entity Model (SEM) (an acronym I genuinely thought I’d never write again) conceived an attack from below, not from the side. It was supposed to clown players asking for higher salaries. It wasn’t meant to facilitate franchise moves over local protest – because who in their right mind in the mid-1990’s was going to worry about communities bidding against each other for a freaking soccer team? And SEM couldn’t possibly have been a measure against competing leagues, because why bother suing a competing soccer league in the 1990’s when you could just wait for them to fail? (And barring an unorthodox approach to league and national team marketing in 2002 or so, that strategy would have worked.)

    For MLS this year, it’s Zlatan and retcon. At least soon it will be official that Chivas USA didn’t really happen.
     
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So, you think the Crew will go to Austin? I don't, but do you? This is will, not should.

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Discussion in 'Articles' started by Dan Loney, Apr 25, 2018.

    1. SierraSpartan

      SierraSpartan Member

      Jan 25, 2007
      Placer County, CA
      Club:
      Sacramento Republic FC

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      MLS needs the extra weeks to see how much more Sacramento can fark up a sure thing.
       
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    2. Roger Allaway

      Roger Allaway Member+

      Apr 22, 2009
      Warminster, Pa.
      Club:
      Philadelphia Union
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      A third is the Philadelphia Union.
       
    3. Paul Berry

      Paul Berry Member+

      Notts County and NYCFC
      England
      Apr 18, 2015
      Beacon NY
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      What if Sacramento were given and expansion slot if they agreed to play in Cincinnati? Best of both worlds.
       
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    4. Beau Dure

      Beau Dure Member+

      May 31, 2000
      Vienna, VA

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      I think they're also considering "North American Suing League."
       
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    5. USRufnex

      USRufnex Member+

      Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
      United States
      Jul 15, 2000
      Tulsa, OK
      Club:
      --other--

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      Oh looky, it's Loney and his sidekick, Beau.

      So, Cincy's moving away from a conveniently located university stadium with lotsa cheapie tickets into a taxpayer subsidized soccer specific MLS version of Chester, PA on the lie that stadiums spur economic development. How utterly unsurprising.

      I am surprised you found time to criticize MLS's single entity status, considering your busy schedule mocking and ridiculing those of us in favor of a future version of American Pro/Rel, we who openly question the status quo and want MLS to move towards a league filled with actual "clubs" and away from single entity.

      Enjoy the MLS outlet shitshow.
       
    6. Paul Berry

      Paul Berry Member+

      Notts County and NYCFC
      England
      Apr 18, 2015
      Beacon NY
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      As part of the deal CFC will put $36 million into the community, which makes the taxpayer subsidy a net $15 million.
       
    7. Paul Berry

      Paul Berry Member+

      Notts County and NYCFC
      England
      Apr 18, 2015
      Beacon NY
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      How much is or was Tulsa expecting from Visit Tulsa for their new stadium?
       
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    8. Ch(Elsey)

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      Columbus Crew
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      May 2, 2003
      Green, Ohio
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      Columbus Crew
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      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      Can you confirm that the Vultures are in hell? If so, then I just might start believing in a place called hell. Fire and brimstone, right? Thanks so much in advance!
       
    9. Paul Berry

      Paul Berry Member+

      Notts County and NYCFC
      England
      Apr 18, 2015
      Beacon NY
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      Here's what the FCC GM and others said about the potential for remaining at Nippert
      • Cost of renting the facility
      • Can't do permanent signage
      • Can't do premium food
      • Can't increase the number of concessions stands
      • Can't improve seating from bleachers
      • Can't sell naming rights
      • Can't expand concourses (needed for a post-game mass exit)
      • Can't add restrooms (number of porta-potties is designed for fans wandering to them over the course of 3-4 hours, not for a half-time rush)
      • Can't raise money from events like concerts and tournaments
      • No training facilities
      • No fixed assets
      • No real estate capital gains
      • Football lines on pitch
       
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    10. Dan Loney

      Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 10, 2000
      Cincilluminati
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      Los Angeles Sol
      Nat'l Team:
      Philippines

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      I left out a tangent about how local columnist Paul Daugherty, in the midst of complaining that the stadium deal got done after so long - no, really - complained that FCC was ditching a perfectly good, centrally located stadium.

      The list you quoted, while all true, didn't include a laughably substandard crowned turf, nor did it include that damn near half the place is technically obstructed view seating - one side of the stadium can't see the near midfield line; and the Bailey can't see the goal line. Very, VERY long-time San Jose fans will remember similar problems with their first home. Nobody wanted to hear it, but when it comes to crummy facilities in MLS, only NYCFC would begin to have an argument.

      I also left off my idea to send the Bengals to Austin and let FCC play in Paul Brown Stadium. But Austin already has amateur football.
       
    11. Mateofelipe

      Mateofelipe Member+

      Mar 10, 2001
      Spokane, WA
      Club:
      Seattle Sounders
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      LAFC, which sits in a 38 percent black neighborhood seems to be making some effort for the "urban" demographic. Also, Atlanta United may not have done much marketing specifically to the black community, but the black community seems to be doing a helluva good job marketing AUFC to itself.
       
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    12. Bill Archer

      Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 19, 2002
      Washington, NC
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      Columbus Crew
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      United States
      #13 Bill Archer, Apr 27, 2018
      Last edited: Apr 27, 2018

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      I just find it hard to understand why anyone would choose a team name that requires the use of a grapheme ß, (or Eszett) which like, say, an umlaut or even a tilde is a pain in the ass to replicate using a keyboard.
       
    13. Paul Berry

      Paul Berry Member+

      Notts County and NYCFC
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      Apr 18, 2015
      Beacon NY
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      The Außtin Crew?
       
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    14. Bill Archer

      Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

      Mar 19, 2002
      Washington, NC
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      Columbus Crew
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      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      Nobody likes a smartass

      Or someone who knows ASCII codes
       
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    15. Paul Berry

      Paul Berry Member+

      Notts County and NYCFC
      England
      Apr 18, 2015
      Beacon NY
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      Copy and paste mate.
       
    16. barroldinho

      barroldinho Member+

      Man Utd and LA Galaxy
      England
      Aug 13, 2007
      Ex-pat in HB, CA
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      Manchester United FC
      Nat'l Team:
      England

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      Ãmätéúr.
       
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    17. barroldinho

      barroldinho Member+

      Man Utd and LA Galaxy
      England
      Aug 13, 2007
      Ex-pat in HB, CA
      Club:
      Manchester United FC
      Nat'l Team:
      England

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      Mocking you, Ted and Ben Fast is not synonymous with mocking people "in favor of a future version of American Pro/Rel".
       
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    18. Beau Dure

      Beau Dure Member+

      May 31, 2000
      Vienna, VA

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
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    19. GlennAA11

      GlennAA11 Member+

      Jun 12, 2001
      Arlington, VA

      MLS in Ohio - Making a Fuss, ha ha, what a great pun, hopefully no one else thinks of it

      By Dan Loney on Apr 25, 2018 at 4:13 PM
      And to an extent DC United. The original Poplar Point site faced quite a bit of neighborhood opposition when it was first proposed including from then-council member Marion Barry, then languished before the plug got pulled. Buzzard Point (the AF site) wasn't really much of a neighborhood beyond some landfills, junk yards, etc but there was also a decent amount of opposition there in front of the zoning commission by folks who do live in the neighborhood.
       

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