Josh Sargent at Werder Bremen

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Academy' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
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    Non Europeans cannot sign until they are 18 unless they have a relative that allows them a path to citizenship and then they can sigh at 16. Many kids go before 16 but they are just trials.
     
  2. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

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    They are sending mixed messages. They say he's close but they give no dates. I'll be happy if they are setting him up for success and that when he goes up he stays up and slowly becomes an irreplaceable starter. It looks like that's their plan and they know what they have with him.
     
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  3. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
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    U17's then U19's
     
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  6. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    excited to see him, but im surprised with him seemingly on the cusp. maybe thats in my head though and the team doesnt see it until after winter break
     
  7. TMBMiles

    TMBMiles Member

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    Mar 31, 2017
    Yeah, I was aware of the 18 rule. Pulisic was able to get a passport from his grandfather I believe.

    It was indeed 16 though, you were right on that. Didn't know 16 was the earliest in that situation.
     
  8. TMBMiles

    TMBMiles Member

    Dortmund
    United States
    Mar 31, 2017
    Bremen has seemingly had a plan for him ever since he signed. I'm sure there was heavy dialogue involved between all parties.
     
  9. chrisdon72

    chrisdon72 Member

    Feb 23, 2000
    I doubt it. He's blowing up and they had not planned on that. So the manager tried some positive PR CYA spin last week since Sargent is not in their near term plans.

    As I suspected (and got roasted for here) it was a mistake for Sargent to skip the Brazil/Mexico friendlies to "get established" at his club since he isn't going to play for the first team regardless.
     
  10. onefineesq

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    You should try out for the Olympics, because leaps like that would make even Bob Beamon blush.
     
  11. TMBMiles

    TMBMiles Member

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    Mar 31, 2017
    Considering they said from the beginning that he was going to skip the U19 team altogether once he was eligible and split practice time with the U23's and men's team, and has done exactly that, I would say they do.
     
  12. chrisdon72

    chrisdon72 Member

    Feb 23, 2000
    How so? Just a couple weeks ago it was critically important Sargent stay with his club. Now he's jetting off across the world for a couple of minor league friendlies. Something changed, obviously. If the BS groupthink doesn't want to admit that I really don't care.
     
  13. Anderson11

    Anderson11 Member

    Nov 23, 2012
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    The notion that Josh doing well was a problem that needed a positive PR spin is comical.
     
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  14. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
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    Aug 28, 2017
    Another thread blown up by Chris :/.

    What a coincidence he scores one goal, and only one goal nearly every game.

    If he continues doing this thru winter break and their forwards go cold and/or 1-2 injuries occur he’s definitely getting playing time.
     
  15. onefineesq

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    And one goal every game is great, obviously. I remember Thierry Henry being asked about this years ago ... which is better, a few games of multi-goal games, but most games with no goals (averaging out to a goal a game) or a steady stream of scoring a goal, game in and game out? And he said that of course it was the latter, because it gave you a chance to win every single time out. We could only be so lucky. For right now, I just want to see Sargent score goal #1 for the 1st team.
     
  16. mace

    mace Member

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    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
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    Keep in mind the Werder II is playing in a Regional League, Germany's fourth division. Man, it's like being a high school star and then thinking that you can just go to a good Division I school and be a shoe in. Sorry, but it just doesn't work like that. The differences in competition levels are night and day. Patience. There is no conspiring against Sargent by Werder. He's developing and gaining professional experience, and practicing agianst/with the first team. Hopefully he'll keep improving but he obviously hasn't consistently been showing all the first team guys up, otherwise he'd be getting first team minutes.
     
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  17. EricSunRa

    EricSunRa Member

    Sep 29, 2007
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    He's only scoring *just* one goal per game because Bremen PR is forcing him to take it easy so that American fans won't blow up their inboxes with death threats and hate mail.
     
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  20. zlatan_but_a_car

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    A tale of two extremes: dress a 40 year old, or debut an 18 year old...
     
  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Not impossible that both are linked: the day Pizza retires, Josh gets his chance.
     
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  22. punintended_13

    Mar 22, 2010
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  23. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    Let’s get him, Pulisic, Weah, Amon, Mckennie and Adams on the field at the same time. Please.
     
  24. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
    Orange County
    Club:
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    https://sbisoccer.com/2018/10/as-usmnt-prepares-for-peru-sargent-hoping-his-hard-work-pays-off

    “I’ve been training with the first team every day at Bremen and a lot of the older players have helped me,” Sargent continued. “Claudio [Pizarro] is a guy in front of me who has been a good mentor towards me, he and the rest of the guys are helping me anyway they can. I think they are doing a good job but I’m also the guy trying to win a spot so it’s good competition as well.”

    But I thought Pizarro was bad our for boy :whistling:
     
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  25. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    I’m pretty sure it was previously discussed about how Pizarro was partially brought there to provide mentorship to Sargent and Eggestien. I don’t think too many thought that was terrible situation. But sure a couple could eat some crow I guess.
     

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