2018 AFC Cup

Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by Angsa, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Country/National team:
    Argentina
    Pahang FA of Malaysia failed to obtain AFC club license and will withdraw from the 2018 AFC Cup. Their place will be taken by Kedah FA.

    https://www.nst.com.my/sports/football/2017/11/306865/tmj-slams-pahang-fa-turning-down-afc-cup-slot

    But the FA of Malaysia (FAM) president said Pahang's decision sends the 'wrong signals' to other Malaysian teams.

    "Do they really think they are helping the national team or do they have an agenda to bring down the president and new leadership of FAM? I am not mincing my words here," said Tunku Ismail at a press conference in Johor Bahru today.

    "How will our football develop when you do not join an international competition such as the AFC Cup? You are sending the wrong signals to the other teams, it is as if the AFC Cup is not important.

    "If the AFC Cup is not important, then just send (your) President's Cup squad. At least the players will learn from the experience and you still participate in the tournament.

    "We are (affiliated) under AFC and AFC is under FIFA so we have to work together, not try to bring each other down."
     
  2. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Country/National team:
    Argentina
    Oh, I got this mixed up. Kedah has failed to get their AFC licence, then Pahang declining to replace Kedah in the AFC Cup.
     
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  3. antonytse

    antonytse New Member

    Jul 17, 2014
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    --other--
    Country/National team:
    Hong Kong
    AFC Club Licence is a new requriement in AFC Cup since the 2018 edition.

    There may be more clubs failing to obtain the licence and cannot join this edition.
     
  4. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
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    --other--
    Country/National team:
    Croatia
    Great that FA guy said those things. Clubs should not be giving up so easy on international competitions.

    Are those licencing criteria same as in ACL? If so, Iraqi clubs won't be able to take part in the competition as like as Syrian.
     
  5. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Country/National team:
    Argentina
    I wonder if North Korean clubs will gain their licenses... apparently an accountant is needed to audit the club's accounts.
     
  6. antonytse

    antonytse New Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    Club:
    --other--
    Country/National team:
    Hong Kong
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    This image is found on Facebook, showing that "FLC Thang Hoa" is replacing the Vietnamese champions "Quang Nam" for the slot in ACL Playoff.

    If the club requirement of participation in AFC Cup is 100% same as ACL, it will mean two things:

    1. Vietnamese cup winners (Either "Song Lam Nghe An" or "Binh Duong") will not join AFC Cup 2018, because technically the cup winner should be the 2nd ranked team in Asian club competitions. "FLC Thanh Hoa", the runners-up in the league, should be the 3rd ranked team.

    2. "Quang Nam" will also not participate in AFC Cup. The remaining AFC Cup slot should be given to the 3rd (4th ranked Vietnamese club in Asian club competitions) in the league. (i.e. "Hanoi F.C.")
     
  7. antonytse

    antonytse New Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    Club:
    --other--
    Country/National team:
    Hong Kong
    From the competition regulations on AFC official website, they are referring to the same club licensing criteria document.

    I saw from an unofficial tweet from August saying that all Iraqi clubs will be licensed.

    Therefore, based on the information known, we will see Iraqi clubs in ACL instead of AFC Cup in 2018, or we will not see any Iraqi clubs in ACL nor AFC Cup.
     
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  8. antonytse

    antonytse New Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    Club:
    --other--
    Country/National team:
    Hong Kong
    "Benfica de Macau" successfully obtain AFC Club Licence, from a Hong Kong local football news website.

    http://www.offside.hk/macau/benfica-de-macau-successfully-obtain-afc-club-license/

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    The football federation of Tajikistan posted the information of AFC Cup 2018 Central Zone, including the teams in group stage, playoff and preliminary stage.

     
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  9. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Country/National team:
    Argentina
    https://www.nst.com.my/sports/football/2017/12/309886/pahang-put-malaysian-footballs-future-risk

    Pahang put Malaysian football's future at risk

    The Malaysian Super League champions next year are guaranteed a berth in the 2019 AFC Champions League group stage but Pahang's decision not to play in the AFC Cup could have future ramifications.

    Asian Football Confederation (AFC) general-secretary Datuk Windsor Paul John confirmed that Malaysia are guaranteed one slot in the Champions League group stage for both 2019 and 2020.

    But he warned that if Malaysia have only one representative in the 2018 AFC Cup, the country's club ranking could fall.

    "Malaysia have just moved past Hong Kong by a small margin to gain a berth in the Champions League group stage for 2019 and 2020," said Windsor today.

    "But to stay ahead in the rankings, Malaysian clubs need to be playing in AFC competitions. If you don't gain points, then your ranking will drop.

    "I fear that Malaysia may come to regret Pahang's decision not to play in the AFC Cup in the future. The ramifications could come in four years' time for a decision made today."

    Windsor explained that club performances accounted for 90 per cent of a country's club ranking with the remainder coming from the national team's Fifa ranking.

    The average of total points accrued over a four-year period is used to determine the number of places a country can have in the Champions League and AFC Cup.

    In AFC's latest club rankings, Malaysia only edged Hong Kong by a fine margin of 0.266 point to move up to 13th place with 29.300 points, largely as a result of Johor Darul Ta'zim’s performances over the last few years.

    "The reason Malaysia have done well is that JDT emerged AFC Cup champions in 2015 and kept Malaysia's flag flying," said Windsor.

    "But the points are calculated based on an average and if there is only one club competing in AFC competitions, you will lose out in the end."

    JDT's victorious 2015 campaign made up one-third of Malaysia's average club points.

    With Pahang's refusal to comply with the FA of Malaysia's directive to play in the AFC Cup, JDT would be Malaysia's sole representative in the second-tier competition if the club do not qualify for the Champions League group stage next month.

    Super League runners-up Pahang were invited to take Malaysia's second spot in the AFC Cup after FA Cup winners Kedah failed to obtain an AFC licence.
     
  10. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Country/National team:
    Argentina
    Sometimes I wonder how serious Malaysian football is. They often talk like they can win the world cup but when they are expected to play, they don't turn up.

    Well, if you don't play, then you won't lose.
     
  11. mdhm

    mdhm Member

    Southern District FC
    Hong Kong
    Nov 7, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Country/National team:
    Hong Kong
    The draw of AFC Cup 2018 group stage was confirmed.

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  12. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
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    --other--
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    Croatia
    So after all no Iraqi clubs in CL, but they will play in AC.
     
  13. antonytse

    antonytse New Member

    Jul 17, 2014
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    Country/National team:
    Hong Kong
    Seems club licensing is not the only requirement...
    Not sure about the reason for Iraqi playing in AFC Cup.
     
  14. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    Actually, that was an extremely smart move and will benefit Malaysia.

    If JDT make it to the ACL, it will be a bonus for Malaysia.
    If they don't, the points will be divided by 1 and based on historical results, JDT will perform better than Pahang, Kedah or Selangor and Malaysia will leave HK further behind, thus ensuring a direct ACL GS spot (most likely for JDT) for more than a couple of seasons.
     
  15. gold4278

    gold4278 Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Country/National team:
    United States
    What happens in Group A if Malkiya wins their ACL Qualifier? Will the group just have 3 teams then? Doesn't look like there is a alternate for Bahrain.
     
  16. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country/National team:
    Croatia
    I think it's more likely it will stay with three teams. Three or four, it's whatever for AFC.
     
  17. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    Lao Toyota win CAS appeal. I assume AFC will pit them vs. Boeung Ket Angkor.
     
  18. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Country/National team:
    Maldives
    Bit late to the party, but I see that AFC are persisting with this terrible format again this year. To think that just over 12 months ago we were complaining about the East-West division up to the finals. Now it's even more segregated and does nothing for club development.
     
  19. Pelefan

    Pelefan Member+

    Mar 17, 1999
    Chicago
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  20. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Country/National team:
    Argentina
    Apparently Benfica de Macau will play its home matches at the Macau University of Science and Technology football field, instead of Macau Stadium, which is a strange choice.

    http://www.the-afc.com/competitions/afc-cup/fixtures/

    How MUST stadium manages to fulfill AFC criteria is a strange one to me.
     

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